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Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:09 am
by Molivo
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-ohio- ... t-hit-list

And as usual, warning signs for years, nobody did anything, etc. But blame it on the Trump, Guns, The NRA... :roll:

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:29 pm
by ss1
Yep, it’s starting to look more your typical school shooter profile. It definitely looks like an sbr in the video. If it is a braced pistol, expect the typical knee jerk reaction against braces, etc.

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:07 pm
by N4KVE
I’m convinced in the not too distant future, the brace will go the way of the bump stock. Designed for a one armed shooter, how may who purchased a brace only have one arm? The ATF will figure it out. GARY

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:11 pm
by Molivo
ss1 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:29 pm Yep, it’s starting to look more your typical school shooter profile. It definitely looks like an sbr in the video. If it is a braced pistol, expect the typical knee jerk reaction against braces, etc.
It was an Anderson AR15 pistol with brace and drum magazine.

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:54 pm
by lakelandman
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Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:17 am
by flcracker
Mental health has nothing to do with it.

Mostly according to people who either have a mental illness themselves or are dealing with a loved one who does, in my experience.

Straight outta left field (CNN):

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/06/us/dayto ... index.html
The Dayton shooter's ex-girlfriend says he was fascinated with mass shootings.

Dayton, Ohio (CNN) Adelia Johnson says she bonded with Ohio gunman Connor Betts over their experiences with mental illness. But she said it's wrong to pin the massacre solely on his condition.

The two began dating after meeting in January in a social psychology class at Ohio's Sinclair Community College, she said.

Betts was "fascinated" by current events and tragedies, including mass shootings, she said. At the time, she said, nothing about his interests gave her pause given their course of study.

"It was his main focus as a psychology person. He was interested in what makes terrible people do terrible things," Johnson told CNN.

He knew mass shootings were "horrific," she said, "and he wanted to know what led a person to do those things."

Now that Betts has been identified as the gunman in a shooting in downtown Dayton that left nine dead and dozens injured, Johnson says she is trying to reconcile the person she knew with the scale of the tragedy.

Johnson shared her account of their relationship in a Medium post on Tuesday. "This is not an excuse for Connor Betts. This is just the Connor that I knew," read the first few lines of the post.

She told CNN that she knew he had guns, "but it's the Midwest so it's not real big news for people to have guns."

On their first date, Johnson said Betts showed her video of a mass shooting and gave her a play-by-play of what happened. She felt it wasn't abnormal for a psychology student to be fascinated by the "horrors of humans," she said.

Otherwise, "he was a perfect gentleman throughout our relationship," she said in the Medium post. "Our relationship mostly consisted of us going out drinking and talking about our mental illnesses and him telling me about world tragedies and me talking about TV shows."

She said he told her that he had bipolar disorder, and she told him that she had depression, generalized anxiety and attention deficit disorder.

"We bonded over depression humor, something that only people who have been in the throes of it really ever understand and find humorous. Joking about personal mental illnesses is one of the biggest coping tools in the mental health toolbelt," she wrote.

When he started talking about his "dark thoughts," such as wanting to hurt himself or others, Johnson said she understood them as a "symptom that we have to learn how to manage."

Most people might call such incidents "red flags," she said, but she did not see them that way.

Then, something happened in May that changed her perspective.

She said he asked her to drive past a house to leave a letter. When pressed, she said, he told her it was an ex-girlfriend's home, and the letter was threatening. When she questioned him about it, "he tried to downplay it as a joke," she wrote in Medium, "but I knew it wasn't, so I pushed further."

She said he then admitted that he sometimes had "uncontrollable urges to do things," such as burn down houses.

"That was the red flag and that's when I got out because I'm not sticking around for that," she told CNN.

She said she broke up with him via text message "because I didn't know how he'd react, so I wanted a safe distance."

She said she also texted his mother and told her what happened. She urged her "to keep an eye on him, because I cared about him and I wanted him to be safe," she told CNN.

Now she's trying to process what happened, she said.

"I am shocked that he did it to this level," she said. "I'm not shocked he did something horrific, because he had untreated problems and there were so many things and there are so many things that people aren't going to know."

"I didn't think he would go shoot strangers, especially his sister," she added.

She said she believes his mental health may have contributed to his actions as one factor in a storm of possibilities.

"This is a much more complicated issue than it is just mental illness or just gun control," she told CNN.

"To always pin murderers on mental illness -- there are millions of people with mental illnesses who don't go around shooting people. Myself included. We aren't dangerous, scary people. But it is a factor."

Johnson said that Betts believed, as she does, that people with mental illnesses shouldn't be allowed to own guns. "You don't know which people with mental illnesses will be the rare few like him, and who will be in the majority of the completely harmless," she said. "But putting a gun in their hand could spark thoughts that they would have otherwise never have thought of. It's not a risk that we should take, no matter how fun shooting one is."

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:42 am
by rentprop1
So the gf , a college student of psychology diagnosis the guy and we're all supposed to sit back and buy it.

I say we rope her for not blowing the whistle on this lunatic before he got out of hand as an example

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:35 am
by Chigger
She said he told her that he had bipolar disorder, and she told him that she had depression, generalized anxiety and attention deficit disorder.

"We bonded over depression humor, something that only people who have been in the throes of it really ever understand and find humorous. Joking about personal mental illnesses is one of the biggest coping tools in the mental health toolbelt," she wrote.
Its now fashionable apparently for two crazies to get together and celebrate their lack of mental health.
Pretty soon if you don't pop pills for some type of mind crisis, you will be odd man out.

Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:37 pm
by rentprop1
attention seeking personality disorders are often copycatted just look at the origin of the posts, everyone knows or has some crazy friends that post or repost crap like this daily on Fb :roll:
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Re: Another Mass Shooting: Dayton Ohio

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:47 pm
by CDI
He also is connected to antifa. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dayto ... -murderer/

Iowahawk blogger David Burge once famously tweeted that “Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.” At least where the stories don’t support the mainstream media’s narrative or Democrats and their policies. Such is the case with Antifa’s first mass murderer, Dayton shooter Connor Betts.

We all can’t grow up to be smart, famous and well-liked. Losers like Betts had none of the above going for him. He claimed to be God in one tweet and hailed Satan in another. His band released misogynistic songs that celebrated raping and killing women.


He also promoted gun control repeatedly. He wrote, “This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill.” And he criticized Rob Portman for failing to support gun control after Parkland, Florida.

From Heavy.com:

On Feb. 14, 2018, he tweeted this at (Ohio) Sen. Rob Portman: “@robportman hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?”

He was also a big fan of socialism and saw himself as a guardian of the radical group Antifa. And he wrote of his desire to “Kill every fascist.”

Betts brought his weapon to an Antifa counter-protest of a KKK rally in Dayton back in May. You probably didn’t see that on the CNN or the CBS Evening News.

From The Dayton Daily News:

The man who killed nine people in Dayton’s Oregon District was seen carrying a gun and protesting against the Ku Klux Klan at a rally downtown in May.

Connor Betts, 24, was shot and killed by Dayton police during the Sunday morning rampage. Neither the police nor the FBI have identified a motive for the attack, though the federal authorities said Tuesday he “was exploring violent ideologies” before the shooting…

The May 25 rally attracted about 500 to 600 counter-protesters who opposed the nine Klansman who came from Indiana and protested in Courthouse Square. The counter-protest group was fenced 0ff away from the Klansman and several people in the crowd were seen carrying firearms.

Hasan Karim, who knew Betts and grew up in Bellbrook in the same high school class, was in the crowd accompanying freelance journalists and was taking pictures of the event. Karim bumped into someone in the crowd and the man told him ‘You don’t know me.’ The two said hello to each other and Karim recognized Betts by his voice, body and mannerisms in their brief interaction.

Betts wore a bandanna covering part of his face and sunglasses. He carried a gun which appeared to be similar in style to the one used in Sunday’s shooting. He did not appear to be part of any group that was in the protest crowd.

“Neither the police nor the FBI have identified a motive for the attack…” Sounds a lot like those authorities who can’t fathom a motive for radicalized Muslims killing people while screaming Allahu Akbar.

We’ve covered Antifa’s increasing efforts to tool up open-carry style, especially at their rallies. They have said they want to start a civil war and are forming a “Red Army” to fight in one.