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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp
Online sales on Craigslist-like websites and sales at gun shows might not be covered under existing law, for example, so Murphy said he's aiming for legislation that would cover “any stranger-to-stranger sale.”

Even if senators were to strike a compromise, though, a scaled-back bill could face skepticism among gun control groups that have long fought for more stringent checks and were eager for change after President Joe Biden won the White House.

“There would likely be varying degrees of support in the gun violence prevention movement for a commercial sales bill as an incremental first step to addressing gun violence in all of its forms," said Christian Heyne, vice president of policy at the gun-control advocacy group Brady. "But it must reject any dangerous gifts to a gun lobby that puts profits over people."

And after years of bruising fights over gun proposals, other Senate Democrats were skeptical that any proposal on the issue could garner meaningful GOP support even if Murphy can find a bill that wins over his caucus' liberals and centrists.

“We have a fairly good prospect for Democratic unity," said Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.). "But keeping 60 votes is another question right now."
Yeah if there isn't a law it has to be a loophole? :roll:
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Miami_JBT wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:35 pm
Firemedic2000 wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:59 am
Miami_JBT wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:58 am

Both are anti-gun and authoritarian. Both want you disarmed.
I agree politicians do whatever it takes to stay in political office. Crist is the perfect example of this. He's converted to all 3 parties to stay in office. But has kept the same political opinions. I believe though that the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY has people run as conservative republicans just so they can control both parties.

Like here in Florida we've got republicans that vote like socialist left wing extremist Democrats or border line vote. All because they want to be in politics and know they must run under the Republican party to win. But vote leaning left.

Look at Texas passing all these pro gun laws. Good luck getting these Florida politicians posing as conservative republicans to vote like that. They are nothing but closet democrats posing.
Instead of typing while angry. How about you show up to the Capitol? I don't recall seeing you there in 2018 when gun control was being passed.
That's your response to me. Telling people to be silent about dissension. To not voice their discord about political leaders. :lol: I see you've not changed either in your way of thinking ;) you said I was not there. We've never met so how can you make that statement. If you do not know what I look like. 8-)
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Firemedic2000 wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:50 pm
Miami_JBT wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:35 pm
Firemedic2000 wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:59 am

I agree politicians do whatever it takes to stay in political office. Crist is the perfect example of this. He's converted to all 3 parties to stay in office. But has kept the same political opinions. I believe though that the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY has people run as conservative republicans just so they can control both parties.

Like here in Florida we've got republicans that vote like socialist left wing extremist Democrats or border line vote. All because they want to be in politics and know they must run under the Republican party to win. But vote leaning left.

Look at Texas passing all these pro gun laws. Good luck getting these Florida politicians posing as conservative republicans to vote like that. They are nothing but closet democrats posing.
Instead of typing while angry. How about you show up to the Capitol? I don't recall seeing you there in 2018 when gun control was being passed.
That's your response to me. Telling people to be silent about dissension. To not voice their discord about political leaders. :lol: I see you've not changed either in your way of thinking ;) you said I was not there. We've never met so how can you make that statement. If you do not know what I look like. 8-)
Randomly typing your anger on a gun forum is not productive. Instead, it should be focused and directed. It should be directly sent to law makers by coordinated email and letter campaigns along with actual physical action like lobby days at the Capitol and such.

As for 2018. I know you weren't there because only four people spoke out against SB 7026 before the committees. Marion Hammer of the NRA, Eric Friday of FL Carry, a local member of the Libertarian Party, and myself.

Texas got Constitutional Carry because gun owners physically went to their Capitol in large numbers over the years and actually out pressure on their lawmakers. In Florida, they just sit on the sidelines and type out things like "Look at Texas passing all these pro gun laws. Good luck getting these Florida politicians posing as conservative republicans to vote like that. They are nothing but closet democrats posing."

What happened in Texas was the end result of a decade's worth of lobbying and politicking by gun owners. But that means getting off the couch and doing stuff.

Texas' lawmakers are not Conservative by any stretch of the imagination. But it was the hard work and effort of gun owners that outright threatened them with "pass what we want, or you're voted out of office."

Florida's lawmakers pass gun control and get reelected into office by gun owners here. What message does that send them? It sends the message that gun owners in Florida are politically weak and apathetic and their threats don't carry water.
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So what your saying is everyone should not speak out about anything. People should not should not voice their disgust and anger in public. That no one should go out on forums, NEWS platforms, discussion groups, bars, homes ect...voice their anger. We should just STFU. How's that worked so far for us. Because when we do we are censored, locked out. Even gun forums are censoring because they live in fear of the radical left wing extremist political faction of our government.

The left screams and hollers everywhere and it seems to be working for them. But we are silent or censored. How's that working out huh. We are suppose to act civilized and do everything like you say. How's that working out for us.

You do not know what I do or do not do. As far as who I call or email. Who I contact to voice my concerns. I will voice my opinions where ever I can. I will display my anger every time we talk about this ROGUE EXTREMISTS FACTION of OUR GOVERNMENT that gained power by means of a political coup and used a fake pandemic to do it.

Maybe we need to riot, burn and attack just like the LEFT WING SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS do. It seems to work for them. Political leaders live in fear of these radical left wing extremist. But no we should not express any anger on line, in public. But only at organized meetings with corrupt political leaders who laugh at us behind our backs. That tactic has worked really well hasn't it.

They fear the LEFT WING SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS. Because they know these thugs will attack them, come to their homes. Will single them out. Political leaders fear the radical left wing extremist and laugh at us. Because they do not fear us. We are civilized. How's this working for us.

We are losing because the radical left wing extremist act and we do nothing. But have meetings with elected officials who just blow us off. Fear is a great weapon and the SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY is using it

I agree with you though on everything thing else you said though. I respect every thing you do. My post is not directed at you. I'm just displaying my anger at both parties online :lol:
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