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Looks like we are douched in DC

Post by tector » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:19 pm

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Re: Looks like we are douched in DC

Post by P5 guy » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:15 am

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Saying citizen I can't come down

The isn't any such thing as a PRO GUN politician, yes some are less anti gun than others, but all know that armed citizens are their worst enemies. [smilie=014.gif]
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Re: Looks like we are douched in DC

Post by jjk308 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:37 am

There's a half dozen Democratic Senators who could lose the next election because of this. But even with their votes and all the Republicans getting the 60 votes needed is a problem

before you comment on politics best to know what the Senate rules are. They've been bent enough to allow a tax resolution issue like tax reform get through with as little as 50 but not a gun bill, for either rights or control.
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Post by tector » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:02 pm

But the GOP could go thermonuclear and change the rules.
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Re: Looks like we are douched in DC

Post by jjk308 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:56 am

tector wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:02 pm
But the GOP could go thermonuclear and change the rules.
Which lets the Democrats run wild if they take over the Senate. Senate rules are designed to slow things down, IAW its original concept as a buffer for the more democratically elected House.
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Re: Looks like we are douched in DC

Post by tector » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:40 am

Oh, they are slowing things down alright.

The Senate can only "run wild" if the House and the President go along. If you are positing losing both of those as well, fine. But right now, before they do, we should get what we can.
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