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School censors

Post by Cardboard_killer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:35 pm

What's is the legislature doing? My sister, a teacher, tells me that they signed a law to hire a position on every school board who has to review every complaint about curriculum, and, if he/she deems it shouldn't be there, remove the offensive book(?). And the kicker is that anyone can complain about the curriculum, even people that don't have kids. Talk about back-door sharia. Every priest, imamm, and anarchist is going to be complaining about evolution, Christmas, and the declaration of independence. And my taxes go up to pay for the chump whose job it will be to tell these idiots, no.
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Post by jjk308 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:11 pm

Your sister is wrong, likely repeating a lie from the teachers union. By HB 989 a parent or county resident may PETITION the school board for removal of any instructional material they deem improper. This just formalizes what used to require a political/publicity campaign against offensive material. There is no such school censor position and the school board has complete control.
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Post by czharry » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:23 pm

jjk308 wrote:Your sister is wrong, likely repeating a lie from the teachers union. ..........
The unions, like the teachers union or afscme like I belonged to, will take information they don't like, then stretch it and twist into something vile, and blame it on the Republicans.
Rank & File are too stupid to find out on their own. They just believe whatever they're told.
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Post by Cardboard_killer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:41 am

I just did a search for the bill and this is the summary per https://www.flsenate.gov/Committees/Bil ... /html/1618

I don't know about the rest of it, but it does appear to allow non-parents to object (nothing about PETITION in this summary), and the person hearing the objection is someone not employed by the school board. I don't care much about it as long as I don't have to pay my money to hire someone else to tell idiots NO. I resent paying anything to teach other peoples' kids.
The bill provides for transparency in the district-level adoption process and more opportunities for a review of materials made available to students. Specifically, the bill:

Modifies the district school board duties regarding the adoption of instructional materials for use in schools to specify that a district school board is responsible for the content of any material that is made available in a school library, or included on a reading list.
Defines the terms “resident” to mean a person who has maintained his or her residence in the state for the preceding year, has purchased a home that is occupied by him or her as his or her residence, or has established a domicile in this state pursuant to Florida law.
Authorizes a county resident, in addition to a parent, to object to the adoption of a specific instructional material.

Modifies the current public hearing process at the district level to specify that for all petitions timely received, at least one open public hearing must be conducted before an unbiased and qualified hearing officer who is not an employee or agent of the school district.

Authorizes a parent or a county resident to object to the use of a specific instructional material and requires the process provide the parent or resident the opportunity to proffer evidence to the district school board that such material does not meet the state criteria or contains prohibited content, or is otherwise inappropriate or unsuitable for the grade level and age group for which the material is used.

Requires a district school board to discontinue the use of a material that the board finds inappropriate or unsuitable.

Requires a school district, upon written request, to provide access to any material or book specified in the request that is maintained in a district school system library and is available for review.
Requires each district school board to maintain on its website a current list of instructional materials, by grade level, purchased by the district.

Defines “purchase” to include purchase, lease, license, or acquire.

Specifies that, except for a school district or consortium of school districts that implements an instructional materials program, each district school board must use the annual instructional materials allocation only for the purchase of materials that align with state standards and are included on the state-adopted list, except as otherwise authorized.

Eliminates the current requirement that at least 50 percent of the annual instructional materials allocation be used to purchase digital or electronic instructional materials.
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Post by P5 guy » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:01 am

I'm a 'non-parent' that is forced to pay for educating other's children. I have no say in what gets forced on those little heads full of mush?
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Post by Cardboard_killer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:08 am

Oh, if we want to go down that road, I think I should get a say in everything the kids do. And I should be allowed to beat them when they piss me off. I'm paying my share.
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Re: School censors

Post by Cardboard_killer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:10 am

More basic question: what was happening under the old rule that caused the legislature to have to write a new law? I'm against more laws, as well as more children.
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Post by jjk308 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:19 am

Cardboard_killer wrote:More basic question: what was happening under the old rule that caused the legislature to have to write a new law? I'm against more laws, as well as more children.
People would get PO'd about something being taught their kids or other's kids and start a campaign against it, raising a fuss, attacking the school board. Usually they'd be ignored but sometimes they'd get a change, like teaching creationism. This law formalizes and controls the process and, IMHO, insulates the school board from political attacks by having an "unbiased" specialist handle it. He'll probably spend most of his time writing rejections of petitions to teach that Brahma created the world and that the Earth is a disk on top of 4 giant elephants standing on a giant turtle. This insulation from any changes in what the educational bureaucracy ordered is probably the opposite of what some of the law supporters (Creationists) envisioned but it is in accordance with the usual CYA functioning of government.
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