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Congressional GOP--what a disaster

Post by tector » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:32 pm

The clowns could f/;k up a two-car funeral (which may be their own). Eight years of bitching about Obama and Obamacare and they can't get jack s';t done on healthcare, which is now seriously imperiling tax reform as well. Being not-Democrats is their sole virtue. Wow, what a thrill. They are almost as inept as the Florida GOP. Almost.

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Post by REDinFL » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:11 pm

Worse, they are undermining Trump even more than fake news. It was a major election issue and, if this is the best they can do, the 2018 election, let alone 2020 won't be pretty.
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Post by tector » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:37 pm

rjroberts wrote:Worse, they are undermining Trump even more than fake news. It was a major election issue and, if this is the best they can do, the 2018 election, let alone 2020 won't be pretty.
Almost seems like the goal. And of course he does a good deal of self-sabotage.
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Post by jjk308 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:35 am

Keep on, and it'll be Prez. Liz Warren in 2020 and socialized medicine, which you'll love if you loved the VA. :ham'r
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Post by flcracker » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:16 pm

As long as they can get their s';t together to confirm Trump's next SCOTUS nomination......
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Post by fish » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:32 pm

^^^ is the top of my list too
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Post by tector » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:38 pm

Too bad Kennedy is being so stubborn. That would help a bit.
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Post by tector » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:39 pm

Too bad Kennedy is being so stubborn. That would help a bit.
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Post by Cardboard_killer » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Hey, I agree with Trump finally. Why don't they just repeal Obamacare? It's obvious that they don't have the votes to replace, but they can repeal it now and get their s';t together and replace it either right before or right after the 2018 mid-terms. It would energize the base, and get them out to vote, despite the disaster that Trump's been so far.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/12/trump-urges-senate-to-pass-health-care-bill-says-has-pen-in-hand.html wrote:Trump urges Senate to pass health care bill, says he has 'pen in hand'

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President Trump said Wednesday he is anxious for Senate Republicans to come together to pass legislation to repeal and replace ObamaCare, a day before Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is expected to release a draft of a new bill.

“I am sitting in the Oval Office with a pen in hand, waiting for our senators to give it to me,” Trump said in an interview with Pat Robertson for CBN’s "700 Club" set to air Thursday.

Last month, Senate Republicans delayed plans to vote on health care legislation after failing to attract enough votes from members of its own party. The House passed an ObamaCare replacement bill in May.

On Wednesday, Trump expressed frustration that Republicans are struggling to pass the legislation -- especially since they now have a president willing to sign it.

"Obama wasn't going to sign it. ... Now we have a president that's waiting to sign it," he said. "I have pen in hand so now it means something.”

Trump said: “You know, those other times, those many, many times, that they passed it, it didn't mean anything.”

Efforts have been made to win over conservatives, like lawmakers elected during the Tea Party wave of 2010, who argue the legislation doesn’t go far enough to repeal ObamaCare. But at least one senator said Wednesday he still opposes the legislation.

“If this bill goes through, we’re voting to keep ObamaCare,” Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul said in a press conference Wednesday, saying he planned to oppose a procedural vote on the bill.

“I think a large part of the frustration in our caucus is that this bill no longer is repeal,” Paul said. “And they’re being asked to vote for something that we never promised. We promised the American voters that we would repeal ObamaCare. But when you’re keeping half the taxes, most of the regulations and creating a brand new insurance bailout superfund -- that to most people just doesn’t sound like repeal.”

During his interview with Robertson, Trump said he’d be angry if congressional Republicans can’t find a way to pass the legislation. Speaking of McConnell, Trump said: "He's got to pull it off. Mitch has to pull it off. He's working very hard. He's got to pull it off."

If Republicans don’t pass the legislation, Trump said “it would be very bad.”

“I will be very angry about it and a lot of people will be very upset,” he said
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Post by jjk308 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:48 am

Cardboard_killer wrote:Hey, I agree with Trump finally. Why don't they just repeal Obamacare? It's obvious that they don't have the votes to replace, but they can repeal it now and get their s';t together and replace it either right before or right after the 2018 mid-terms. It would energize the base, and get them out to vote, despite the disaster that Trump's been so far.
Simple reason you'll never get full repeal: Expanded Medicaid. Almost 100% of the "insured" increase under Obamacare was in this program and something close to 10,000,000 people would lose their healthcare under a straight repeal.
The Senate plan is for a gradual repeal of the expansion, transitioning the support to any state that chooses to keep it and even that's under fire from many Republicans because of the impact on state budgets and the votes of the millions of recipients.
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Post by Cardboard_killer » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:34 am

jjk308 wrote:The Senate plan is for a gradual repeal of the expansion, transitioning the support to any state that chooses to keep it and even that's under fire from many Republicans because of the impact on state budgets and the votes of the millions of recipients.
I understand that, but they aren't going to get it passed as it is. And if they don't, then we have another year of obamacare and those that want it, including those republicans in states that expanded medicare, will be even more used to it. In other words, the longer the band-aid is on, the harder it is to pull off. If they don't do it now, it will never be repealed.
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Post by AirForceShooter » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:01 am

It's really time for the "Throw the Bums out" movement.

Congress has a 97% reelection rate.

Nobody likes or trusts congress but we keep sending them back.

We ARE the blame

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Post by firemedic2000 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:56 am

AirForceShooter wrote:It's really time for the "Throw the Bums out" movement.

Congress has a 97% reelection rate.

Nobody likes or trusts congress but we keep sending them back.

We ARE the blame

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I agree and I predict this will happen. I bet you Trump will back the candidates running against the idiot's in office now also. Just like us there are people out there by the millions saying the same thing.

Why is congress not doing what we want and backing the POTUS. Why are they not doing anything now that they finally have the power to do it.

These blind fools in Washington are living in a different world and listening to the bogus polls. The same polls, done by the same people that predicted Trump would be slaugthered in his bid for POTUS.

Oh yeah also their political backers are telling them what to do or no more campaign money in their coffers.
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Post by jjk308 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:31 am

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jjk308 wrote:The Senate plan is for a gradual repeal of the expansion, transitioning the support to any state that chooses to keep it and even that's under fire from many Republicans because of the impact on state budgets and the votes of the millions of recipients.
I understand that, but they aren't going to get it passed as it is. And if they don't, then we have another year of obamacare and those that want it, including those republicans in states that expanded medicare, will be even more used to it. In other words, the longer the band-aid is on, the harder it is to pull off. If they don't do it now, it will never be repealed.
I stated the reason why so many Republicans and all Democrats wont vote for a complete repeal. Hoping otherwise is a waste of time. The only Senator who refuses to vote for anything but full repeal is Rand Paul, who foolishly refuses to vote for incremental measures to trim down Obamacare.
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Post by Orlando Paulitician » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:57 pm

tector wrote:Too bad Kennedy is being so stubborn. That would help a bit.
I'd say he's 60/40 or 70/30 ratio progressive to libertarian.

This will be one of his more progressive decisions.
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Post by tector » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:26 pm

If reports tonight are accurate, these idiots have flopped again.

Good God, how embarrassing.
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Post by tcpip95 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:30 pm

They've had nearly 8 years to come up with an alternative to Obamacare and they still can't do it. The only thing I really cared about in this election was SCOTUS. At least they got that right.

And they keep on getting re-elected.... :ham'r
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Post by czharry » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:58 am

On a news commentary they said that Schumer runs his people like well oiled machine. He and Pelosi tells them what to do and what not to do and how to vote on certain things, and they are all in 'lockstep'.

The GOP, it seems, are akin to a bunch of 1st graders that are let out at recess to play.
With this health care thing, the GOP are "It's too restrictive", "It's not restrictive enough", "What about medicaid?", whaa whaa whaa.
Whereas, if schumer told the dems to all vote for the new Trump-care, they would do it. As it is, he told them that no one is to vote for it, and they are not.
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Post by Cardboard_killer » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:36 am

jjk308 wrote: The only Senator who refuses to vote for anything but full repeal is Rand Paul, who foolishly refuses to vote for incremental measures to trim down Obamacare.
That's probably because he, rightfully, believes he wasn't elected to "trim down" Obamacare, but to repeal it. Do you have a teletype that feeds you RNC lines, because you really just parrot them 100%.
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Cardboard_killer wrote:
jjk308 wrote: The only Senator who refuses to vote for anything but full repeal is Rand Paul, who foolishly refuses to vote for incremental measures to trim down Obamacare.
That's probably because he, rightfully, believes he wasn't elected to "trim down" Obamacare, but to repeal it. Do you have a teletype that feeds you RNC lines, because you really just parrot them 100%.
Not only that but as last night proved he was wrong factually 100%.

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