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help identify this pistol

Post by DDMatthews » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:57 pm

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there are no numbers or anything I find to identify this old gun. It was given to my son by his grandmother it belonged to her grandfather or father.

any help would be appreciated.
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Post by czharry » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:38 pm

Well, the logo on the grips looks like an owl's head on its side. Have you looked under the grips for a name or number?
Or checked on the frame when it's opened?
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Post by JLB » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:52 pm

That's an Iver Johnson top-break revolver. Not sure of the caliber, but probably .32 S&W or .38 S&W. The owl's head grips are the logo for that company.

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Post by czharry » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:55 pm

I got more!
http://www.antiquemystique.com/pages/3431_jpg.htm
See pics of gun.
This antique revolver with owl head grips was made by Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works.It probably dates to the 1890s and is being sold as a relic parts gun merely for decorating/collecting and not to be purchased as a firearm.By ordering this item you certify that you are at least 21 years of age;not a felon and are not violating any state or federal laws.
Price $ 95
Also, look here at the grips. http://www.etsy.com/listing/73846220/an ... n-owl-head
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Post by DDMatthews » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:24 pm

thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

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Post by DDMatthews » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:53 pm

dug out an old magnifyng glass and pulled the grips off and got serial # dates match info below

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Topbreaks (Safety Hammer) .38 cal. S&W large frame

Owl is looking to the barrel, cylinder is free wheeling when at rest, for black powder cartridges


Model 2, Second Model, second variation
Double top latch, 150'000 items were manufactured in 1897 and 1898, serial number with C or G letter prefix, marked on the top of the barrel rib
IVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS FITCHBURG. MASS.U.S.A.
PAT'D.APR.6.86.FEB.15.87.MAY 10.87.DEC.26.93 PAT'S PENDING
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Post by Toorop » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:06 pm

Very cool gun. Looks like you have a nice piece of history there.

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Post by Baldy » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:15 pm

I see you got all the info on one. I have one also that the wifes grand father carried way back in the day. It is now a family heirloom with some history to it. [smilie=cheers1.gif]
.32 S&W Iver & Johnson, better knowed as a Owls Head.. [smilie=011.gif]
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Post by thorazine » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:28 pm

Baldy wrote:I see you got all the info on one. I have one also that the wifes grand father carried way back in the day. It is now a family heirloom with some history to it. [smilie=cheers1.gif]
.32 S&W Iver & Johnson, better knowed as a Owls Head.. [smilie=011.gif]
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Mmmmm...

Was that the indiana jones gun?

Or something similar to it?

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Post by JLB » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:45 pm

Indiana Jones carried a Smith & Wesson Model 1917 in .45 acp, I believe.

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Post by George W » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:57 pm

JLB wrote:Indiana Jones carried a Smith & Wesson Model 1917 in .45 acp, I believe.
Webley in .455 IIRC
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Post by JLB » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:16 pm

George W wrote:
JLB wrote:Indiana Jones carried a Smith & Wesson Model 1917 in .45 acp, I believe.
Webley in .455 IIRC
No, in the first movie he definitely a Smith & Wesson 1917 in either .45 acp or .455 Webley.

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He used a Colt New Service in Temple of Doom, and a Webley in the Last Crusade and in the Crystal Skull.

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Post by George W » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:25 pm

I guess the Webley always stuck in my mind. :ber
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Post by JLB » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:39 pm

George W wrote:I guess the Webley always stuck in my mind. :ber
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I loved the chopped .45 acp converted Webley I used to own. Webleys are very cool. [smilie=pdt_xtremez_30.gif]

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