If FL trends Commie, where will you bug out to?

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If FL trends Commie, where will you bug out to?

Post by tector » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:19 am

I know this subject comes up periodically, but I am starting to get more concerned about it. I am not super worried about this election, although I think there is a realistic chance of a Democratic governor for the first time in a long time (really depends who is nominated by each party). I do think Scott will beat Nelson (unless he effs up handling any hurricanes between now and the election), but one Senator really has far less effect on the day-to day lives of people in any state (although if he is the 50th and last Republican senator, obviously it is different).

But I don't like the trend. Broward and PB have been commie for a long time. As the Miami Cubans cycle through generations, they are moving left, making Miami-Dade more commie. Orange County has taken the lead on a really anti-gun ordinance. I could see elections in the future really going sideways, like has happened in states like Virginia and Colorado. I could see elections in 4 to 6 years really getting squirrelly, especially if the federal courts strike down the prohibition on felons voting (I don't think the voters are going to bless it this fall, but like gay marriage, the federal courts are going to have the last word). And that is about the time I would be thinking of retiring.

This past Sunday I took the Utah concealed carry course down here. I have to say, I like their style. Yes, there are Mormons, but that is a mixed issue--it keeps them more "right" than most people. On guns, they are about the last state that would go down the drain. The place is beautiful in many areas (actually ridiculously so in some areas). The climate varies a great deal, depending exactly where you are.

I have been all over Utah and one place that would be highly practical to me is St. George. It is on the far SW corner of the state, just north of the AZ border. It is less than 2 hours by car from Las Vegas, so there is that. Here are the weather averages:

MonthHigh / Low(°F)Rain

January53° / 33°3 days
February59° / 38°3 days
March68° / 44°4 days
April76° / 50°2 days
May87° / 60°1 day
June98° / 69°0 days
July102° / 76°2 days
August100° / 73°2 days
September92° / 65°1 day
October79° / 53°2 days
November63° / 40°2 days
December51° / 32°2 days

It is a fast growing area, but not growing with trash. And they have an In-N-Out Burger.

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Re: If FL trends Commie, where will you bug out to?

Post by Flame Red » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:27 am

Tector,

I fear Florida, at least the Southern part and here in Mosquito County is already turned Libiturd. [smilie=012.gif]

Wife won't let us move even though we are now in Crime Hills and overrun with armed home invasions and other [smilie=042.gif]. All her (libiturd) relatives moved here!
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Post by tector » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:34 am

Flame Red wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:27 am
Tector,

I fear Florida, at least the Southern part and here in Mosquito County is already turned Libiturd. [smilie=012.gif]

Wife won't let us move even though we are now in Crime Hills and overrun with armed home invasions and other [smilie=042.gif]. All her (libiturd) relatives moved here!
Oh, and large parts of the Bay Area, Jacksonville, Leon County, Alachua County. It seems just a question of when it reaches critical mass for statewide effect. It happened in Virginia and Colorado. It seems FL and NC (for another example) may be on the same path.
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Post by rug357 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:44 am

I know it's coming and it will change the state but I just hope it won't happen too quickly.
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Post by Skoll » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:49 am

I've always planned on either moving back to Pennsylvania or moving back to Colorado regardless. While it's true Florida is turning more purple/blue, how many of you really like it down here anyway?
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Post by REDinFL » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:11 am

Thanks for that climate info, Tector. That'll give me another target for investigation. I'm researching moves for a couple of reasons, the political being just one, and a secondary one at that. I'll have to look at their tax picture to see if it makes my short-list.

I'm not so sanguine about Scott, and have said before I will not vote for him. Oh, sure, some will scream that's handing it to nelson. I reject that and maintain it makes no difference. Nelson is openly an a;;h;;e, Scott is a backstabber. He'll sponsor or support legislation harmful to my interests and smile while doing it, saying it's great. No thanks.


All it would take for FL to swing blue is about 20,000 votes, which are easily gained by "voter registration drives" getting out the lazy, or manufactured by newly ''woke'' demo operatives.
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Post by p7fl » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:13 am

Last weekend I took the UTAH CCW class that Blue Monday advertised a while back.
The pro gun and self defense laws in Utah are ideal. Worth reviewing.

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Post by tector » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:25 am

p7fl wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:13 am
Last weekend I took the UTAH CCW class that Blue Monday advertised a while back.
The pro gun and self defense laws in Utah are ideal. Worth reviewing.
Yep, I was impressed. At least one other FSN member was there, too.
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Post by n0rlf » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:09 pm

I am loving the life here in Tennessee. A little worried about some of the left leavers moving in from the north east. However here people are not afraid to tell them what they think and sss if it gets too ugly. Lol
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Post by g.willikers » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:24 pm

Broward and PB have been commie for a long time.
The west side of the state suffers, too.
After the immigrants from the northeast drove real estate prices high over on the east side of Fla, they discovered what relative bargains there were on the west side.
Then they did the same idjit thing over here.
Some people refuse to learn.
So far though, we've managed to escape too much of the effect of leftist politics.
But at the rate people are moving away from the more collective minded northeast states and their high taxes the worse it's probably going to be.
After living with nice toasty weather for decades, it would be tough to move very far north.
Maybe a break away section of northern florida could be made into another state, without the influence of the fools farther south.
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Post by zeebaron » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:26 pm

It's coming to everywhere, some states will just be slower to adopt full socialism. Within about a decade, Florida will need an income tax.

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Post by tector » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm

By the time Utah goes commie, it is extremely likely that either one of two things will be true:

I will be dead, and thus I won't care.

The US as a whole is completely done, in which case it won't matter.
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Post by RevCharlie » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:11 pm

REDinFL wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:11 am
Thanks for that climate info, Tector. That'll give me another target for investigation. I'm researching moves for a couple of reasons, the political being just one, and a secondary one at that. I'll have to look at their tax picture to see if it makes my short-list.

I'm not so sanguine about Scott, and have said before I will not vote for him. Oh, sure, some will scream that's handing it to Nelson. I reject that and maintain it makes no difference. Nelson is openly an a;;h;;e, Scott is a backstabber. He'll sponsor or support legislation harmful to my interests and smile while doing it, saying it's great. No thanks.


All it would take for FL to swing blue is about 20,000 votes, which are easily gained by "voter registration drives" getting out the lazy, or manufactured by newly ''woke'' demo operatives.
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Post by Rentprop1 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:29 pm

can't wait for all you Mo' Fo's to leave [smilie=011.gif]
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Post by Skoll » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Rentprop1 wrote:
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can't wait for all you Mo' Fo's to leave [smilie=011.gif]
You know, CA's three state thing is going to ballot this November after hundreds of attempts. Maybe the same thing can happen here.
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Post by fish » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:14 pm

I'm going to get in the RV and park in whatever state is free, until it isn't.
Then drive to the next one, repeat until I run out of free states.
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Post by FfNJGTFO » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:48 pm

fish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:14 pm
I'm going to get in the RV and park in whatever state is free, until it isn't.
Then drive to the next one, repeat until I run out of free states.
Sadly, that may take less time than you think... No state is safe, these days. At some point, we have to stand and fight for the state in which we want to live! As I stated when I started this same thread earlier this year.

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Post by Gregh181 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:28 pm

Wyoming or Tennessee
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Post by Gregh181 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:31 pm

I hate most people in general so Wyoming w it’s lowrst population in the US and best gun laws as well works for me
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