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Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by situationalray » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:31 pm

Just got a letter from the irs saying i didnt pay what i owed them for my tax return. But they cash the check i sent them (for the same amount theyre saying i owe in the letter).

And when i call the number on the letter the automated machine asking for my ss# and when i put that number in the machine says my ss# cannot be found.

Called h&r block since no other tax centers picked up. And they said if i did my taxes there theyd have to see a copy of the bank statement showing my check was cashed and my tax return. They have a private number to the irs that only the tax prepares can call.

I did my taxes 3 hrs away from home this year. Cant be driving back to that same guy.

Any ideas what i should do? Ive googled other irs numbers and they seem to link to the same one

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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by REDinFL » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:36 pm

Follow the instructions in the letter for written reply. A copy or printout from the screenshot of your online statement, along with a short note (''I paid this...) should do it. Check the address on the irs website, just to be sure it's not a scam.
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Post by situationalray » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:37 pm

I hate reading but ok :ham'r [smilie=011.gif]

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Post by Flame Red » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:41 pm

REDinFL wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:36 pm
Follow the instructions in the letter for written reply. A copy or printout from the screenshot of your online statement, along with a short note (''I paid this...) should do it.
^^^ Agree

Include a copy of your canceled check. It's the Gooberment [smilie=042.gif] . They cannot deal even with modern technology like telephones.
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Post by N4KVE » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:25 pm

Think that’s bad? A few years ago I received a letter from the IRS stating that I had to pay tax on unreported income. I called them back, & was told the unreported income was from profit on my stock portfolio. I told the gal to check her records, & pointed out I SOLD a particular stock that wasn’t doing well. That’s not income. I then pointed out that within 5 minutes of selling that stock, I used the $ to buy a different stock that was doing better. So I never actually saw any cash. Then I asked her how selling a lousy stock, & buying a better stock was unreported income. She replied “ never mind, sorry to bother you”. GARY

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Post by Gregh181 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:35 pm

N4KVE wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:25 pm
Think that’s bad? A few years ago I received a letter from the IRS stating that I had to pay tax on unreported income. I called them back, & was told the unreported income was from profit on my stock portfolio. I told the gal to check her records, & pointed out I SOLD a particular stock that wasn’t doing well. That’s not income. I then pointed out that within 5 minutes of selling that stock, I used the $ to buy a different stock that was doing better. So I never actually saw any cash. Then I asked her how selling a lousy stock, & buying a better stock was unreported income. She replied “ never mind, sorry to bother you”. GARY
Actually you should of told her you wanted to report the stock as a loss 👌 Capital Gains tax works both ways
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Post by N4KVE » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:23 pm

Gregh181 wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:35 pm
Actually you should of told her you wanted to report the stock as a loss 👌 Capital Gains tax works both ways
I actually did mention it to her, & she said I could. But in the long run with all my stocks, I’m way ahead. My energy stocks suck, while my financial institution stocks are doing great. But I can never forget the saying, “the government is here to help us”. GARY.

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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by Dr. Dickie » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:48 pm

N4KVE wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:25 pm
Think that’s bad? A few years ago I received a letter from the IRS stating that I had to pay tax on unreported income. I called them back, & was told the unreported income was from profit on my stock portfolio. I told the gal to check her records, & pointed out I SOLD a particular stock that wasn’t doing well. That’s not income. I then pointed out that within 5 minutes of selling that stock, I used the $ to buy a different stock that was doing better. So I never actually saw any cash. Then I asked her how selling a lousy stock, & buying a better stock was unreported income. She replied “ never mind, sorry to bother you”. GARY
If you had made any profit from selling the lousy stock, it WOULD have been income, regardless if you put the money into another stock or in your pocket. You don't have to physically "see" the money for it to be a profit.
A lousy stock can just not preform as well as liked, it can still be making money.
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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by tcpip95 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:23 pm

If you have a local IRS office near you, I'd take the time to go there in person. My guess is you are the victim of identity theft. Take all your paperwork with you when you go. I don't think you're going to get this resolved via mail.

EDIT: You list Orlando as home.

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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by fish » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:47 pm

^^^^I suspect a visit to the IRS would be good too ^^^^^
But see if there is some way to make an appointment, don’t just show up.

I once tried to get in to the Orlando IRS place, as my employer did not report any of my income in 1977.
I had all the W2 and 1040 paperwork to show the IRS so I could get credit towards my Social Security $$$ later.

At the IRS office, all the seats were filled, the rest of the room was standing, hallway full of people standing, etc.
Fled the area.
I never did get credit for my 1977 income, but later learned that it would have added about .01 cents more for me on my SS check.
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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by TampaShooters » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:21 pm

My boss just went through this... The cashed the check, applied it to the wrong account, then sent a bill. The other account had a credit of the amount.

Took hours on the phone trying to fix their screw up.

She had to send another payment, then wait 4 to 6 weeks for a refund of the screw up.
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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by N4KVE » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:34 pm

Dr. Dickie wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:48 pm


If you had made any profit from selling the lousy stock, it WOULD have been income.
I didn’t. GARY.

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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by situationalray » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:45 pm

TampaShooters wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:21 pm
My boss just went through this... The cashed the check, applied it to the wrong account, then sent a bill. The other account had a credit of the amount.

Took hours on the phone trying to fix their screw up.

She had to send another payment, then wait 4 to 6 weeks for a refund of the screw up.
Crap

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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by cubanstang50 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:07 pm

It takes over an hour of holding to be able to get a live person. It is depressing but you dont have a choice. Its one of those things in life you just have to take care of lol. I also received a letter saying i owe then $270. I have no idea where this comes from but i have an accountant that takes care of my taxes. Wish you luck.
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Re: Irs says i didnt pay, but they cashed my check

Post by jjk308 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:29 am

The IRS screws up all the time.

NEVER TRY AND DEAL WITH THEM BY PHONE OR IN PERSON! You used to be able to game it by calling their advice line until you got the answer you wanted, then documenting the call, agent, time.. But they are so overloaded now I doubt it'd work and it will take you forever.

Send a letter, certified mail. keep a record of everything. And for the check they cashed your bank will normally have a photocopy of it available online. Send that too.
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:48 pm
N4KVE wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:25 pm
Think that’s bad? A few years ago I received a letter from the IRS stating that I had to pay tax on unreported income. I called them back, & was told the unreported income was from profit on my stock portfolio. I told the gal to check her records, & pointed out I SOLD a particular stock that wasn’t doing well. That’s not income. I then pointed out that within 5 minutes of selling that stock, I used the $ to buy a different stock that was doing better. So I never actually saw any cash. Then I asked her how selling a lousy stock, & buying a better stock was unreported income. She replied “ never mind, sorry to bother you”. GARY
If you had made any profit from selling the lousy stock, it WOULD have been income, regardless if you put the money into another stock or in your pocket. You don't have to physically "see" the money for it to be a profit.
A lousy stock can just not preform as well as liked, it can still be making money.
You probably had long term capital gains, (or losses) your net selling price less the original purchase price.

KEEP RECORDS OF ALL STOCK TRANSACTIONS. ESPECIALLY ORIGINAL PURCHASE PRICES! I'm not in the market but in doing my mother's taxes it was a PITA because she had nothing but stacks of annual reports, no share price info, and I had to go back and research stock prices years before.
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