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Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by molivo » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:59 pm

Hitting all the news wires now...
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:02 pm

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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Dave M » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:08 pm

Why would he do this?

I hope he has something up his sleeve.

Distraction possibly?

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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Allme » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:13 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
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Another Reagan with the Huges amendment and 86' NFA... Way to go! (eye roll).

"Just a few moments ago I signed a memo directing the attorney general to propose regulations that ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," ~ Didn't ol' Ronnie do that in 86'?
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by 870Mike » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:13 pm

He didn't say "bump fire stocks", he said "devices that turn regular guns into machine guns".

Anyone wanna buy a Fostech Echo or Franklin Binary triggers? #-o
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by firemedic2000 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:29 pm

What's the definition of machine gun technically none of those devices turn a weapon into a machine gun. POTUS wants atfe to rule on this. Is all. POTUS is crafty


Accordingly, following established legal protocols, the Department of Justice started the process of promulgating] a Federal regulation interpreting the definition of "machinegun" under Federal law to clarify whether certain bump stock type devices should be illegal. The Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking was published in the Federal Register on December 26, 2017. Public comment concluded on January 25, 2018, with the Department of Justice receiving over 100,000 comment

promulgate hence spread among the people the definition of machinegun under federal law and determine weather the bumpstock meets the definition of machinegun. It does not. bumpstocks do meet that definition under federal law.

Today, I am directing the Department of Justice to dedicate all available resources to complete the review of the comments received, and, as expeditiously as possible, to propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns. 

Phase above is just double talk that states devices that turns legal weapons into machineguns. Again what is the federal law as far as definition of machinegun.

He's just ordering them to close this deal and get it off his back. One pull one shot is not machinegun. This is how I interpid it. To much is being read into it.
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by TampaShooters » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:49 pm

It's all strategic... Move to ban something that isn't and has no real meaning... Then announcing he's doing something and crushes liberal naysayers that he didn't do anything.

News and forums blow up over "ban" but don't really understand it's meaningless and libs unknowingly laugh, all while we at back with nothing truly lost... Priceless.

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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Waldo1 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:57 pm

I hope he bans all of those heat-seeking, radar-invisibility-rounds and novelty pistol bayonets too. And maybe he can tie this legislation to Term Limits.
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:18 pm

Given he already supported an AWB most his life until he needed people to vote for him , now he openly supports a ban on devices including binary triggers, raising the rifle purchase age up to 21 and is discussing more gun control measures in the coming weeks. I highly doubt this a nothingburger, I wasn’t in the country at the time but I’m sure they said the same thing about the AWB in 1994 but look at the fuckery that followed.... next time there won’t be a sunset on the bill =:wvr

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Post by firemedic2000 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:31 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
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Given he already supported an AWB most his life until he needed people to vote for him , now he openly supports a ban on devices including binary triggers, raising the rifle purchase age up to 21 and is discussing more gun control measures in the coming weeks. I highly doubt this a nothingburger, I wasn’t in the country at the time but I’m sure they said the same thing about the AWB in 1994 but look at the fuckery that followed.... next time there won’t be a sunset on the bill =:wvr

No the AWB was a big deal back then. Remember the Clintons were in office. But I'm being positive. MSMBC is taking it and running with it. Trump is turning on gun owners. See what I'm talking about.
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Crashpanic » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:34 pm

Can this be overturned in the courts? Bump stocks don't meet the definition of restricted full auto weapons.

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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by TampaShooters » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:52 pm

Crashpanic wrote:
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Can this be overturned in the courts? Bump stocks don't meet the definition of restricted full auto weapons.
Nothing has been banned, he just directed the doj to look into the possibility. It's a publicity stunt.
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Gregh181 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:34 pm

It’s all strategy as stated above. Give them some bullshit item to “ban” and they shut up
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Post by Gregh181 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:46 pm

Actual news by our state legislature

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sun-sent ... y,amp.html
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:02 pm

He’s(DT) on twitter calling for stronger background checks =:wvr

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Post by Gregh181 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:22 pm

Jesus guys yes he is. Read more into it. He calling for better integration of the background check system w mental health facilities.
This is something that should be done
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by tcpip95 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:32 pm

The "bump stock ban" is bullshit; it's a bone that he's throwing out there to appease the liberals. They're useless anyways (bump stocks AND liberals). By doing this the Loony Left can't say that "Trump's doing nothing" and they're dumb enough to think he is.
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by molivo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:44 am

Gregh181 wrote:
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It’s all strategy as stated above. Give them some bullshit item to “ban” and they shut up
What happens when we run out of bullshit items to give them?
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Post by Gregh181 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:03 am

molivo wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:44 am
Gregh181 wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:34 pm
It’s all strategy as stated above. Give them some bullshit item to “ban” and they shut up
What happens when we run out of bullshit items to give them?
The trick is to not to. Keep letting companies make new products like the bump stocks so we can always sacrifice something
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Re: Breaking News: Trump directing atf to ban bump fire stocks

Post by molivo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:41 am

Gregh181 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:03 am
molivo wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:44 am
Gregh181 wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:34 pm
It’s all strategy as stated above. Give them some bullshit item to “ban” and they shut up
What happens when we run out of bullshit items to give them?
The trick is to not to. Keep letting companies make new products like the bump stocks so we can always sacrifice something
There's a sound plan...
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