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Sporting Purpose

Post by Taco » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:57 am

First, let's not argue about if there should/should not be the sporting purpose designation- You can start your own thread.

Now the topic at hand. I thought sporting purpose was used to exempt shotguns from being NFA due to bore size being over .5 . New article today related to NRA influencing the ATF recommendations mentioned adding AR and AK to sporting purpose because folks hunt with them more now than the last time they updated the regs. Does that accomplish anything? Something related to import maybe? They are small caliber firearms and already legal. I don't get the big deal.
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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by Villafuego » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:07 pm

It would open the door to reimportation, and make them no longer subject to 922(R) requirements.......

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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by photohause » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:18 pm

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What new gun my dear, this old thing?

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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by 870Mike » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:42 am

On that subject...why is the Street Sweeper listed as a "destructive device" while all these other new-fangled, mag fed shotguns aren't? :-k

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Post by molivo » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:26 am

870Mike wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:42 am
On that subject...why is the Street Sweeper listed as a "destructive device" while all these other new-fangled, mag fed shotguns aren't? :-k

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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by Hogboy45 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:18 am

molivo wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:26 am

Racism. The man trying to hold a black gun down...
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Post by N4KVE » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:22 pm

870Mike wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:42 am
On that subject...why is the Street Sweeper listed as a "destructive device" while all these other new-fangled, mag fed shotguns aren't? :-k
The laws have not caught up with these new shotguns yet. GARY

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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by 870Mike » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:30 pm

18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4): DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE
26 U.S.C. 5845(f)(2): DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE (Nonsporting shotgun having
a bore of more than one half inch in diameter)

The registration period for the USAS-12, Striker-12, and Streetsweeper shotguns will close on
May 1, 2001.

ATF Ruling 2001

Pursuant to ATF Rulings 94-1 (ATF Q.B. 1994-1, 22) and 94-2 (ATF Q.B. 1994-1, 24), the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) classified the USAS-12, Striker 12, and
Streetsweeper shotguns as destructive devices under the National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C.
Chapter 53. The NFA requires that certain "firearms" be registered and imposes taxes on their
making and transfer. The term "firearm" is defined in section 5845 to include "destructive
devices." The term "destructive device" is defined in section 5845(f)(2) as follows:
[T]he term 'destructive device' means . . . (2) any type of weapon by whatever name known
which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive
or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in
diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as
particularly suitable for sporting purposes; . . .

The USAS-12, Striker 12, and Streetsweeper shotguns were classified as destructive devices
pursuant to section 5845(f) because they are shotguns with a bore of more than one-half inch in
diameter which are not generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes.
Pursuant to 26 U.S.C. 7805(b), ATF. Ruls. 94-1 and 94-2 were issued prospectively with respect
to the making, transfer, and special (occupational) taxes imposed by the NFA. Thus, although the
classification of the three shotguns as NFA weapons was retroactive, the prospective application
of the tax provisions allowed registration without payment of tax. ATF has contacted all
purchasers of record of the shotguns to advise them of the classification of the weapons as
destructive devices and that the weapons must be registered. ATF has registered approximately
8,200 of these weapons to date.

Held, the registration period for the USAS-12, Striker-12, and Streetsweeper shotguns will close
on May 1, 2001. No further registrations will be accepted after that date. Persons in possession of
unregistered NFA firearms are subject to all applicable penalties under 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53.

Date signed: February 2, 2001
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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by Rentprop1 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:14 am

I've got a line on a transferable sweeper just under 1000 , plus the $ 200 if anyone's got a hankering for one ....just trying to help the guy move it.
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by 870Mike » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:25 am

Rentprop1 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:14 am
I've got a line on a transferable sweeper just under 1000 , plus the $ 200 if anyone's got a hankering for one ....just trying to help the guy move it.
I would, but timing isn't good. Will check back after the move.
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Re: Sporting Purpose

Post by Rentprop1 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:45 pm

I was considering grabbing it, for the coolness factor, but I have 2 Saiga's now ](*,) ....plus he's kinda firm on the price, they don't come up all that often ...I know where to get another as a parts kit, but he also wants too much, and I believe its a parts kit because he never registered it back in 2000
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Sporting Purpose

Post by dammitgriff » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:44 pm

These restrictions are meant to keep us (citizens) from possessing more powerful weapons than them (paranoid government).
There are no exceptions to “shall not be infringed”. Guess we’ve been propagandized successfully by Uncle Sam, since we all fill out “their” forms that are nothing more than un-Constitutional permission slips from our rulers.
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