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Re: Our President Speaks the Truth - Add your favorite Shithole here...

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:56 pm
by pokeeejoe
Port-au-Prince was a shithole when I was there back in the 1970's. I don't really think Haiti still being a shithole can be blamed on anyone but the Haitians. Then again, maybe a few natural disasters improved the place and the Clintons restored it to it's natural shitholiness :-)

regards,
Joe

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:11 pm
by wolfdog
If I recall my history correctly we , the US that is rebuilt Haiti twice before the Clintons had their turn. Built roads, ports, industry, agriculture, then turn it over to the residents and in a few years it is a shi*hole once again.

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:47 pm
by n0rlf
The Philippines. Liked the people, very nice. The place though was a true shithole.

Ok so I loved the women. Just had to check and be sure they were not of Rent's variety.

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:16 pm
by Jeepsnguns
I have a map of the world pinned up on one of my walls.
My son & I have looked at that map while discussing this very subject many times.
In my humble opinion there is very little real estate in this world that is not a shithole.

That being said I lived in Puerto Rico for 6 years when I was a kid back in the 60's and it was a shithole.
Went back with my wife & son in 2008, still a shithole.
Now after the hurricane damage, I cant even imagine.

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:26 pm
by Gmountain
Belle Glade fits right in there with that description too.

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 pm
by lakelandman
California!! [smilie=popcorn.gif]

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:49 pm
by ParishM
BerettaRacer wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:44 pm

This is what it looks like these days, it was slightly different back then. Darker blue hull etc. Twin MTU's, approx 4000 HP
In '86 it was considered the fastest conventionally powered yacht in the world, flat water about 35knts. cruise 27-28knts, then the turbine/water jet boats took over for much higher top speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMtE_t7iOAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJRh4Uah1Gk

Few years ago they did that vid "I'm on a boat" on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM

Before that when I was on it we did a "Miami Vice" episode
I water skied behind it off Cape May, NJ on calm day.
One rough night, with seas behind us, we were regularly surfing the face of waves at 40+ knts, few over 45. Big time scary, pitch black, couldn't slow down, you'd broach and roll.


pretty impressive for 22 yrs ago

now this thing it pretty amazing !

37 meters, 184 gross tonnage, 58 knots max speed
Carbon Fibre hull & superstructure
(3) MTU 16V 4000 M90 series engines, each rated at 3,698hp
Kamewa jet drives, total power output is a superlative 11,000hp


http://iyc.com/yachts/ermis-2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok_d_miS5bs

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Re: Our President Speaks the Truth - Add your favorite Shithole here...

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:00 am
by PzGren
pokeeejoe wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:56 pm
Port-au-Prince was a shithole when I was there back in the 1970's. I don't really think Haiti still being a shithole can be blamed on anyone but the Haitians. Then again, maybe a few natural disasters improved the place and the Clintons restored it to it's natural shitholiness :-)

regards,
Joe
I was first in Haiti coming down from Chicago in winter in 1985 and Port-au-Prince wasn`t great. It got much, much, much worse. In 1917 Port-au-Prince was occupied by the U.S. and the city was planned on a grid with a sewage system for 100,000 people. There are over 3 million living in Port-au-Prince now and the sewage system was never updated. That stinks [smilie=011.gif] .

There was a Lebanese/Syrian family in Petionville around 2005 that had opened a large bakery " Epi d`Or" and they loved Port-o-Poop. They had a bakery in Ivory Coast before and always said how much nicer Haiti was! I put Ivory Coast on my personal black list.

Re: Our President Speaks the Truth - Add your favorite Shithole here...

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:23 am
by Dr. Dickie
Dave M wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:49 pm
Dr. Dickie wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:29 pm
tector wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:16 pm
Whatever you think of Trump, if Haiti ISN'T a shithole, nothing is.
Well, I don't know. I think Haiti aspires to be a shithole.
The question wasnt what that country aspires to be, but what they currently are.
Watch Paul Joseph Watson's video on this subject , it has nothing to do with race.
I am not sure you know what the phrase "aspires to" means, Google "aspirations," the root word.
As far as race, you were the only to mention that, so we know what you think.
Haiti gives the word shithole a bad name.

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:40 am
by AirForceShooter
It's easier to make a list of places that are NOT s';t holes.

AFS

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:26 am
by P5 guy
"Mid-Town" St. Petersburg.
Camden NJ
Atlantic City NJ two blocks west of the Boardwalk
I don't travel much and the only time I was outside of the US for pleasure was Aruba in 1981.
/:f

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:40 am
by jjk308
+ Many on Haiti. Their history is one of an endless string of screw-ups: black racism, enslavement by their own government, revolutions, assassinations, terror, bloodshed and a culture of stupidity. Honestly, I can't blame anyone for wanting to exit the place. Even the Dominicans who share the island with them despise Haitians.

Egypt is just plain filthy. I have a vivid memory of a little old lady cooking stew in a stand on a Cairo bridge over the Nile. She sold the last of a pot to a customer then tied a rope to the pot and dunked it in the water, next to the floating garbage and dead dogs.

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:18 am
by ss1
shithole cities:

Lima, Peru
Kingston, Jamaica
Camden, NJ
Belle Glades

Honorable mentions:

Albuquerque
Los Angeles
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Ft Pierce
Rome

I’ve taken a cruise that stopped at Labadee Haiti, but that is a cruise line controlled area. There were Haitians in row boats begging at the side of the ship. Flying over Haiti and the DR you see the stark difference. The Haiti side is deforested and the DR side is lush green with mature trees.

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:34 am
by pharmer
Although I've been gone almost 40 years, Passaic, Paterson, Newark, Camden, Trenton, Jersey City, are not worth even passing through. Joe

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:46 am
by FfNJGTFO
pharmer wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:34 am
Although I've been gone almost 40 years, Passaic, Paterson, Newark, Camden, Trenton, Jersey City, are not worth even passing through. Joe
Add New Brunswick.....

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:38 pm
by Beck77
I was in northern Haiti, near the town of Cap-Haïtien in November 2009, about 2 months before the major earthquake in January 2010. Major sections of the roads we used to drive out to our mission site in Bois de Lance were paved but had potholes that you could lose a VW in. All the young people spend all their time nearly trying to get out of the country. The Haitian people are great but their government has completely screwed the population. We were taking in huge generators and irrigation equipment so that the people we were working with could grow more crops and provide jobs to the people. We spent more than 2 hours in the airport stuck while our Haitian people figured out how much of a bribe we needed to pay?

I was riding in the front of a tap tap for a trip in to Cap when I observed a bearded (odd in Haiti) guy jogging through the streets with nothing on but sneakers. There are many decent people in Haiti, but the country is certainly a s';t-hole. At the time all the young people who wanted to go to college had to go to the Dominican Republic but very few could afford to do so.

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:55 pm
by TampaShooters
Was in Dominican republic a few weeks ago.... Total Shithole...

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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:12 am
by jjk308
Beck77 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:38 pm
The Haitian people are great but their government has completely screwed the population. We were taking in huge generators and irrigation equipment so that the people we were working with could grow more crops and provide jobs to the people. We spent more than 2 hours in the airport stuck while our Haitian people figured out how much of a bribe we needed to pay?
The Haitian people could easily, and very often have, overthrow their government. They've had 53 rulers since the Haitian Revolution of 1791. The problem is their culture is antithetical to good, honest government, which requires putting the good of the country before your own desire for money and power.

This has led to 225 years of driving out almost everyone who could be of value in establishing a competent government. It started with driving out first the whites, then the mixed blood managerial and commercial class. Today the resulting mess is driving out anyone with a bit of talent.

Re: Our President Speaks the Truth - Add your favorite Shithole here...

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:37 am
by Flame Red
TampaShooters wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:55 pm
Was in Dominican republic a few weeks ago.... Total Shithole...
I once stopped in the Dominican Republic as a cruise excursion. Got on a bus and drove to some beach resort. That resort was very high class, full of Europeans that were well endowed and went bouncing around topless. My teenage kids at the time did not want to return to the US for some reason? Very classy place.

Yes, the rest of the country was a shithole. Garbage and sewage in the streets. Didn't one of the former presidents (Bush?) vacation there?

Wanted to add Jamaica to the list. The Brits should never have given that up as a colony! The Brits always ran a classy operation and kept it from turning into a Shithole!

Re: Our President Speaks the Truth - Add your favorite Shithole here...

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:16 am
by FfNJGTFO
Beck77 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:38 pm
I was in northern Haiti, near the town of Cap-Haïtien in November 2009, about 2 months before the major earthquake in January 2010. Major sections of the roads we used to drive out to our mission site in Bois de Lance were paved but had potholes that you could lose a VW in. All the young people spend all their time nearly trying to get out of the country. The Haitian people are great but their government has completely screwed the population. We were taking in huge generators and irrigation equipment so that the people we were working with could grow more crops and provide jobs to the people. We spent more than 2 hours in the airport stuck while our Haitian people figured out how much of a bribe we needed to pay?

I was riding in the front of a tap tap for a trip in to Cap when I observed a bearded (odd in Haiti) guy jogging through the streets with nothing on but sneakers. There are many decent people in Haiti, but the country is certainly a s';t-hole. At the time all the young people who wanted to go to college had to go to the Dominican Republic but very few could afford to do so.
Do you still have to deal with vestiges of the Tonton Macoute, etc.?