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CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:24 pm



https://youtu.be/sCLoIorYguU

Call to Action: New bill proposed would ban all things that accelerate rate of fire, extremely vague and can eventually include all semi auto rifles. Military Arms channel did a great video on this topic. This came from Florida and 9 republicans backed this bill.

You should call your representatives as soon as possible to voice your opinion.
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by tector » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:54 pm

That cat avatar is apropos.
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:56 pm

tector wrote:
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That cat avatar is apropos.
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Rentprop1 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:01 pm

like calling and writing ever does any good =:wvr
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:02 pm

Rentprop1 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:01 pm
like calling and writing ever does any good =:wvr


Got better idea? [smilie=011.gif]

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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Rentprop1 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:05 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:02 pm
Rentprop1 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:01 pm
like calling and writing ever does any good =:wvr


Got better idea? [smilie=011.gif]
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Post by George W » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:26 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:02 pm
Rentprop1 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:01 pm
like calling and writing ever does any good =:wvr


Got better idea? [smilie=011.gif]
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Chinerd00 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:44 pm

BRM Let's see if NRA backs this or stops it.
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Dave M » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:38 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:58 pm
Here's the bill https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfiles ... ockban.pdf
So is this the Bill that is supposed to "outlaw" bump or slide fire stocks?

How does this outlaw all semi - automatic guns?

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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Cardboard_killer » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:48 pm

Chinerd00 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:44 pm
BRM Let's see if NRA backs this or stops it.
They've already said that they will not support new legislation

They want regulatory action.
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:49 pm

Dave M wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:38 pm
Jonathanw wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:58 pm
Here's the bill https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfiles ... ockban.pdf
So is this the Bill that is supposed to "outlaw" bump or slide fire stocks?

How does this outlaw all semi - automatic guns?
It bans everything that accelerates rate of fire with no clear definition. So all aftermarket triggers could do that, a suppressor could cause it to cycle quicker, certain gas tubes, even semi auto in general. It's very poorly written bill intentionally done. Also high magazine capacity could increase rate of fire so they could go as well

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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by jjk308 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:02 am

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... mp-stocks/

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ks-n809476

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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by firemedic2000 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:54 am

Ryan said no legislation for bump stock issue. Ryan basically threw it back into the lap of the ATF and said they can reassess their decision on the bump stocks.

Guess the public out cry against any kind of legislation pertaining to guns is hitting home. That and if they want to stay in office.

I really do not see what ATF can do in their decision they originally made on bump stocks. Because they actually do not modify the weapon into a full auto. It's still one pull of the trigger. That would be like regulating how fast you could fire a semi auto by limiting how fast you can pull the trigger per minute.

What's ATF going to do. Say semi auto guns can only be fired 10, 15, 20 rds per min by pull of the trigger. That's not happening.

Or say if you bump fire you semi auto you now converted it to a full auto. That does not meet the definition of a full auto. Bump fire equals one pull one shot.

Because you do not need a bump stock to bump fire a semi auto weapon.

It was never about bump fire stocks anyways. It was about allowing politicians the opportunity to even legislate anything to do with guns.

Because once they start for some reason they have a hard time stopping. 60rd, 100rd mags would have been next on the hit list and then it would have snowballed from there with new bills.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html
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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by Jonathanw » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:14 am

I hope that is true but I'm also worried what kind of power or precedent we are setting by lets atf change the rules even if it contradicts the actual law. It won't be a victory when atf is run by democrats and using that against us in 4 to 8 years

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Post by N4KVE » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:15 am

You don't need a slide fire stock to bump fire. Will they make a belt loop illegal? GARY



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Re: CTA: New Bill proposed could eventually ban most semi Autos

Post by firemedic2000 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:15 am

Jonathanw wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:14 am
I hope that is true but I'm also worried what kind of power or precedent we are setting by lets atf change the rules even if it contradicts the actual law. It won't be a victory when atf is run by democrats and using that against us in 4 to 8 years
True and it will always be that way. Until..............

That term used earlier to describe your avatar can be used in many ways to describe something.

But I think in your original post it was meant to describe a very appropriate look to a particular situation. Describing a kinda shocked, startle or a look of disbelief on the face on your avatar. In association with what the political leaders would attempt to do.
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