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More than 450 people ordered to give up firearms in Florida

Post by Skoll » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:40 pm

So, how about that civil forfeiture...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/30/mo ... -says.html
Hundreds of gun owners in Florida have been ordered to give up their guns under a new law that took effect after the deadly Parkland shooting in February, according to a report published Monday.

The Risk Protection Order, signed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott just three weeks after a gunman killed 17 people at Stoneman Douglas, aims to temporarily remove weapons from gun owners who have been deemed by a judge to possibly be a threat to themselves or others.

Roughly 200 firearms have been confiscated in the state since the law was enacted, Sgt. Jason Schmittendorf, of the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, told WFTS-TV. "Around 30,000 rounds of ammunition" were also taken, he said.

A five-person team in the county that's worked solely on the risk protection law reportedly has filed 64 risk protection petitions in court. Broward County, according to the news outlet, has filed 88 risk protection petitions since March.

"It’s a constitutional right to bear arms and when you are asking the court to deprive somebody of that right we need to make sure we are making good decisions, right decisions and the circumstances warrant it,” Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told the station in defense of the task force.

Every petition filed under the order in Pinellas County has so far been granted by the judge, according to the report.

FLORIDA GOV. RICK SCOTT SIGNS GUN BILL FOLLOWING PARKLAND MASSACRE, IN BREAK WITH NRA ALLIES

The first gun seizure under the law occurred in April when Florida authorities confiscated an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle from an Army veteran.

Jerron Smith's gun was seized when he refused to surrender it voluntarily, the Broward County Sheriff's Office said at the time. The officers also seized a .22 caliber rifle he owned, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a bump stock and numerous other weapon-related items.

In addition to confiscating guns, the law also raised the age to buy a rifle to 21 and established a three-day waiting period on gun purchases.
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Post by dammitgriff » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:07 pm

Funny, I don’t feel any safer.
Maybe if they started confiscating firearms from government agents I would feel better.
Seriously, this law and these confiscations will obviously establish precedent and lead to wider confiscation efforts under lower legal standards.
Down the slippery slope we slide!

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Post by jjk308 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:20 pm

The law has a couple defects, like forcing the gun owner to DISPROVE the allegations made in the petition and by not providing legal counsel or reimbursement for lawyers fees. So I doubt it'd survive a serious, adequately funded challenge. The only way it'll keep going for any length of time is if the LEOs are very careful in who they pick for confiscation, either those clearly demented or very angry and acting out, and if judges overturn the petitions if there's any serious opposition.

Meanwhile the basic premise is flawed. If the people whose guns are being seized are to dangerous to be allowed firearms how about all the hundreds of other ways they can commit mass mayhem? Why aren't they Baker Acted, arrested and charged or otherwise kept out of circulation? Remember that only about half of all murders are by firearm!

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Post by lighteye » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:53 pm

Don’t you dare bring logic into this with your talk of Baker acting.

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Post by ABOC » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:16 pm

Poor sobs... Probably some angry white guys who posted pro 2A stuff online in a slightly overzealous manner... Had they been from the protected minority class, they could have threatened to become school shooters using their real name and the FBI and local LE would never have been able to identify them and take their guns away...

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