Home supressor storage requirements

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Home supressor storage requirements

Post by LRPR » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:05 am

Hi ya, does any one know the BATFE requirements for personal home storage for supressors? If so, the ATF document, page, para.
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by George W » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:34 am

This really belongs in the NFA section, but.........To my knowledge, there aren't any specifics.

But, how the item is owned may clarify. If it is individually owned, only the owner may posses. In a trust, only named trustees may posses, and for corps. the named officers and/or their designee. Someone with much greater knowledge will be in soon enough, I'm sure.
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Post by Pizzim » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:48 am

there are requirement, i dont feel like looking up the exact wording but its something like locked up so that only the registered owner (owners) have a key
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by George W » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:57 am

Storage of NFA Firearms

To avoid unauthorized transfers, registrants must store NFA firearms so that no one else has access to them. Firearms may be stored at locations other than the address on the firearm registration form, such as a safe deposit box. However, unless the registrant is a Federal firearms licensee who has paid the special (occupational) tax to import, manufacture, or deal in NFA firearms, the NFA Branch should be notified in writing of the new storage location.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/pub/nfab/index.htm
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by flcracker » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:45 am

What about traveling? Other than ensuring that they're legal to possess at your destination, are there any other requirements if you want to take your can on an out of state trip?
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by Flame Red » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:31 pm

I am not a lawyer, but here goes.

A suppressor is not really much different than other NFA stuff. The above post is correct, it must be stored so that only the people it is "registered" to can only access it. If others can access it they would be in potential violation and subject to the usual 15 year a$$ pounding in Levinworth. The general guidelines are that anyone who can legally shoot can use your NFA if you are present and in possession of it. Don't plan on giving it to your neighbor to borrow...

As far as transportation, it depends if it is "registered" as individuals or Corporate. FOr individual (or multiple people), it can be transported out of state with the proper notification of ATF (I forget the form #). For Corporate, you cannot transport it out of state - so you can't take it to the Knobs Creek shoot for example.

Either way, in state you can transport it for use subject to state law - like to go to a shoot. In Florida, don't try to use it screwed on to your CCW or you are going to get a multi-year a$$ pounding at Stark. NFA for CCW is not kosher in Florida.
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Post by mjmensale » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:29 pm

Flame Red wrote:As far as transportation, it depends if it is "registered" as individuals or Corporate. FOr individual (or multiple people), it can be transported out of state with the proper notification of ATF (I forget the form #). For Corporate, you cannot transport it out of state - so you can't take it to the Knobs Creek shoot for example.

Either way, in state you can transport it for use subject to state law - like to go to a shoot. In Florida, don't try to use it screwed on to your CCW or you are going to get a multi-year a$$ pounding at Stark. NFA for CCW is not kosher in Florida.
Registered suppressors, like other NFA items, can be transported interstate regardless of whether the owner is an individual or a corporation/trust. The only requirement is that the NFA item be legal to own in both the home state and the visiting state. The official ATF form for interstate transportation of NFA items is 5320.20 but it isn't required for transporting suppressors. A copy of the registration form will do. There are no state laws governing transport within Florida other than a copy of the registration form must accompany the NFA item.

And just to clarify your last statement, there is nothing preventing practicing with a suppressor on your carry gun. However, our CWFL doesn't apply to a suppressor, only to the handgun.
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by thorazine » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:08 am

False toilet safe.

Just have to make sure the house guests don't poo in it and use the alternate restroom instead. =/

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Post by flcracker » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:39 am

mjmensale wrote:Registered suppressors, like other NFA items, can be transported interstate regardless of whether the owner is an individual or a corporation/trust. The only requirement is that the NFA item be legal to own in both the home state and the visiting state. The official ATF form for interstate transportation of NFA items is 5320.20 but it isn't required for transporting suppressors. A copy of the registration form will do. There are no state laws governing transport within Florida other than a copy of the registration form must accompany the NFA item.

And just to clarify your last statement, there is nothing preventing practicing with a suppressor on your carry gun. However, our CWFL doesn't apply to a suppressor, only to the handgun.
Thank you for the clarification/explanation/correction, Moe.

Does anyone have a link to a comprehensive guide to which states allow the legal ownership of suppressors?
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by thorazine » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:26 pm

So setting up claymores around the safe(s) containing the NFA items would not be required?

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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by flcracker » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:55 pm

mjmensale wrote:The official ATF form for interstate transportation of NFA items is 5320.20 but it isn't required for transporting suppressors.
Here is a direct link to the form - as Moe says, it is not required for interstate transportation of suppressors (see instructions on second page).

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5320-20.pdf

Re: which states allow the private ownership of suppressors:

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http://www.awcsystech.com/about/civilian-ownership/
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SILENCERS ARE LEGAL FOR CIVILIAN OWNERSHIP IN MOST STATES.

Silencers are legal for civilian ownership in the following states Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri (C&R Required), Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

Civilian ownership is prohibited in the District of Columbia and the following states: California, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont.

Government, law enforcement agencies and military customers do not have any state restrictions.
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by thorazine » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:25 pm

Kinda surprised vermont doesn't allow them.

For aren't they generally pro gun?

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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by Miamioffshore » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:43 pm

thorazine wrote:False toilet safe.

Just have to make sure the house guests don't poo in it and use the alternate restroom instead. =/
off topic....but a friend was invited to the white house as theyd just won the ncaa nat'l championship. During the tour one of them used a bathroom only to find it was feux and no longer had any plumbing. This guy is a 300+ lbs lineman, I can only imagine the carnage he left in that unflushable dry toilet....
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Re: Home supressor storage requirements

Post by Dave P » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:23 am

" LRPR wrote:Hi ya, does any one know the BATFE requirements for personal home storage for supressors? If so, the ATF document, page, para.
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There aren't any. What you are asking for is a citation for something that does not exist. There are suggestions but there is no "Shall be kept under lock or key with a combination containing no less than 7 digits"

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