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Form 4 wait times.... (updated)

Post by False Prophet » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:05 am

Man, this is getting frustrating already. My form 4 was received on March 21st and here we are over 4 months later and it's still pending. [smilie=014.gif]

Here is the timeline so far....

Received: March 21
Check cashed: March 27
Pending: May 1
Examiner: Sandra Snook


Just a heads up of what to expect for those getting ready to submit a form 4. ](*,)
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by wakkoss » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:24 am

You must be doing individual.
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by False Prophet » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:22 pm

wakkoss wrote:You must be doing individual.
Trust.
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by JT4 » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:28 pm

I sent in my form for an AOW around April 10 or so and the approved form came back approximately 2 weeks ago or so. Dealer mentioned it was fairly quick but likely because I already had two stamps on my Trust already.

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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by False Prophet » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:41 pm

I don't know if it's the examiner or not but I've heard from one other person that Sandra Snook is slow(er).
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by wakkoss » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:43 pm

Wow, that IS slow...especially for a trust. Four months is reportedly the average right now for a trust.
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by aquajon » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:25 pm

They probably read the forum and figure anyone twisted enough to have the photo library you do must be a criminal. They just haven't found it in your background check...yet. Not to worry, some suit will soon be "discovering" the drugs in your home while your at work.

But seriously, that's sloooowwwww. Seen this website:
http://nfatracker.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Check the reports section.
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by Ironman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:22 pm

NFA Item: AWC Archangel T
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 30 Janurary, 2009
Check Cashed: 6 Feburary, 2009
Pending Date: 6 April, 2009
Approved Date: 1 May, 2009
Forms Received: 8 May, 2009

NFA Item: AAC M4-2000 MOD 08
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 3 July, 2009
Check Cashed: 8 July, 2009
Forms Pending: 5 August, 2009
Forms Cleared:
Items Received:


NFA Item: DTA MK9 MOD0 (DeGroat Tactical Armament)
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 13 August, 2009
Check Cashed: 18 August, 2009
Forms Pending: 14 September, 2009
Forms Cleared:
Items Received:



NFA Item: SWR HEMS2
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 28 August, 2009
Check Cashed: 2 September, 2009
Forms Pending: 21 September, 2009
Forms Cleared:
Items Received:



NFA Item: Silencerco Sparrow
Form Type: Form 4
Transferee Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 28 August, 2009
Check Cashed: 2 September, 2009
Forms Pending: 21 September, 2009
Forms Cleared:
Items Received:
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by Chinerd00 » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:51 pm

mine took little over 3 months. i sent another one out we shall see should be end of august
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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by False Prophet » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:49 pm

OK, now I'm really pissed. I found out there was a problem with the serial numbers not matching. The examiner sent a letter to the dealer asking to clarify the problem. The dealer informed me that I'm going to have to resubmit the form 4 and wait another 4 months because SWR screwed up and sent the wrong can???

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Post by tony k » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:31 pm

False Prophet wrote:OK, now I'm really pissed. I found out there was a problem with the serial numbers not matching. The examiner sent a letter to the dealer asking to clarify the problem. The dealer informed me that I'm going to have to resubmit the form 4 and wait another 4 months because SWR screwed up and sent the wrong can???

](*,) [smilie=014.gif]
If your dealer politely asks ATF, you can mail the revised Form 4 directly to the NFA examiner.

I did that last month -- actually, it was a change of transferee -- and the replacement Form 4 was approved the same day USPS delivered it in W.Va.

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Re: Form 4 wait times....

Post by False Prophet » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:26 pm

tony k wrote:
False Prophet wrote:OK, now I'm really pissed. I found out there was a problem with the serial numbers not matching. The examiner sent a letter to the dealer asking to clarify the problem. The dealer informed me that I'm going to have to resubmit the form 4 and wait another 4 months because SWR screwed up and sent the wrong can???

](*,) [smilie=014.gif]
If your dealer politely asks ATF, you can mail the revised Form 4 directly to the NFA examiner.

I did that last month -- actually, it was a change of transferee -- and the replacement Form 4 was approved the same day USPS delivered it in W.Va.

Thanks Tony, I'm going to ask them tomorrow to do that. Do you think that's something I can do or does the FFL have to call the examiner?
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Post by spikes40 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:12 pm

my form 1 was sent august 13.. i am expecting the check to clear sometime this week...then let the wait begin
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Post by molivo » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:37 pm

You know, for as much as we have to pay to play their game they need to hire some more damn examiners. [smilie=014.gif]
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Re: Form 4 wait times.... (updated)

Post by wakkoss » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:43 pm

I'm in the same boat FP, wwith Sandra Snook actually.
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Re: Form 4 wait times.... (updated)

Post by aquajon » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:33 pm

molivo wrote:You know, for as much as we have to pay to play their game they need to hire some more damn examiners. [smilie=014.gif]
Assuming the goal of the ATF is to give you faster access to your already paid for NFA items, which based on their actions of past surely isn't the case.
Remember the multi-tools they were handing out not long ago engraved with ATF (Always Think Forfeiture)?
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False Prophet wrote:
tony k wrote:
False Prophet wrote:OK, now I'm really pissed. I found out there was a problem with the serial numbers not matching. The examiner sent a letter to the dealer asking to clarify the problem. The dealer informed me that I'm going to have to resubmit the form 4 and wait another 4 months because SWR screwed up and sent the wrong can???

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If your dealer politely asks ATF, you can mail the revised Form 4 directly to the NFA examiner.

I did that last month -- actually, it was a change of transferee -- and the replacement Form 4 was approved the same day USPS delivered it in W.Va.

Thanks Tony, I'm going to ask them tomorrow to do that. Do you think that's something I can do or does the FFL have to call the examiner?
Does year dealer get along well with the examiner? If so, it'd be better for him to call. OTOH, some dealers hate their examiners and the feeling is mutual, and if it's one of those, better that you make the call.

Examiners have the option of doing it as an amended application, but there is no requirement that they do so. So you need to ask nicely.

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Re: Form 4 wait times.... (updated)

Post by wakkoss » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:06 pm

At what point do you give up on your dealer calling and just call yourself?
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Post by sterling991 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:21 pm

Form 4's for my Mossberg 590 and outback 2

Trust ( already has 2 NFA items in it)

Check Cashed on July 31

Waiting......................

How do you see if it is "pending"

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Re: Form 4 wait times.... (updated)

Post by False Prophet » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:58 am

sterling991 wrote:Form 4's for my Mossberg 590 and outback 2

Trust ( already has 2 NFA items in it)

Check Cashed on July 31

Waiting......................

How do you see if it is "pending"

You have to call them at (304) 616-4500. Have the serial number of the item on hand.
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