Wait times to get quicker ????

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Re: Wait times to get quicker ????

Post by Villafuego » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:00 am

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I saw the figures you posted over at NFA Tracker a while back.....

My observation is that the actual processing is closer to 5,000 a week......it's mid July and they are just "wrapping up" the pre-41F Efile submissions....so lets say it took them from mid-May to the mid/end of July to process 30,000. That's approx. 4500-5000 per week (being generous there).

Looking at the rest of the numbers.....130K total pending, means that since the 41F "cutoff", they have received, on average, 10K submissions per month (July '16-May '17).

If they maintain the staffing levels, and production levels, they could process a months worth of post-41F submissions every 2-3 weeks.

I'm guessing my April '17 F1 could come back in around September-October......5-6 months....

Still better than a year
Looks like my F1, mailed 4/26, was approved 10/3.......showed up in the mailbox 10/11.....

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Re: Wait times to get quicker ????

Post by Jonathanw » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:48 am

5 month wait times for some people according to NFA track, ATF is working on May Forms.

Hoping to get my Form 1 back February or March

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Post by Rentprop1 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:53 pm

and Trusts haven't moved an inch :-k
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Post by Dave M » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:34 pm

I agree with rent

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Post by Gregh181 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:16 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:48 am
5 month wait times for some people according to NFA track, ATF is working on May Forms.

Hoping to get my Form 1 back February or March
I’m right there w ya late feb
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Post by Rentprop1 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:01 pm

I had an individual submittted in May 17 come back this week...but almost all trust submissions from Nov 2016 are still pending....wow
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Post by Jonathanw » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:12 am

Ive notice a slow down in individual form 1&4 , I think they are working on the backlog of trusts at the moment. I was hoping it would be January if it kept getting shorter wait times but I’m thinking March will be when I get my stamp now

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Post by boomboom » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am

We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
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Post by Jonathanw » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:26 am

boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am
We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
=D> Form 1 or 4?

That gives me hope

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Post by neverenoughguns » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:47 am

boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am
We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
Individual or Trust?

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Post by boomboom » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:01 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:26 am
boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am
We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
=D> Form 1 or 4?

That gives me hope
form 4
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Post by boomboom » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:01 pm

neverenoughguns wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:47 am
boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am
We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
Individual or Trust?
Individual
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Post by dieselbeef » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:14 pm

ill be calling in bout mine tomorrow dano...
im the other gary...

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Post by neverenoughguns » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:21 pm

boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:01 pm
neverenoughguns wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:47 am
boomboom wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am
We had one last week, came back 3 months and 1 day.
Individual or Trust?
Individual
I like the benefits of a Trust but almost feel like the longer wait times are ment to discourage folks from going that route.

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Post by dieselbeef » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:25 pm

silencershops site says a revocable trust is also an option besides a gun trust...anyone use them?

can it be done electronically yet or only thru the kiosk...geez it is really a pita and the guy next to me bout fell out when he saw the cost and heard us discussing wait times and stamp costs in addition..
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Post by Rentprop1 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:29 pm

Remember there's only like 34 people at ATF that are trained and qualified to examine all of those trust documents . .sure the contractors do some of the work but the actual examiners are limited in numbers....... ( yes they actually have to read the entire thing to make sure it's legal to own that silencer ](*,) ).....I've read horror stories of people who got kocked back when they had no NFA firearms verbage in their trust, as in just like a regular family trust.....and they also paid dearly for them.....makes the Silencer Shop $129 trust look like winning the super bowl.

It's pretty hard to discourage someone from using their trust if they want the benefit of shared ownership with a brother, friend, relative, but for an actual estate planning purposes.... going the trust route is pretty worthless unless you were planning to die soon.
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Post by dieselbeef » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:51 pm

can it be transferred to trust after its in your possesion
im the other gary...

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Re: Wait times to get quicker ????

Post by 870Mike » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:48 pm

dieselbeef wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:51 pm
can it be transferred to trust after its in your possesion
From Prince Law Offices:

Q: If I currently own NFA firearms, can I transfer them into the trust without incurring a transfer fee?

A: Unfortunately, the answer is no. The trust is a separate legal entity and the tax must be paid for any transfer into it.
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Re: Wait times to get quicker ????

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:40 pm

Does not being a US citizen slow down the NFA filing process?

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Post by 870Mike » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:19 am

Jonathanw wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:40 pm
Does not being a US citizen slow down the NFA filing process?
Hopefully... [smilie=011.gif]
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