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Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:47 pm

I'm turning 21 soon so I will be released from NFA jail.
I have hearing damage on my left side from ear drum issues when I was younger so I would like to protect my ears better more often so I'm not completely deaf when I'm older. which is one reason why I want get into the suppressor game.

I am getting into 300 blackout and reloading as my primary rifle caliber.

My question is, (with form 1 completed of course) would it be possible to build 7.62/300blk suppressor using kits and what cost would it run?

After looking at manufactured one prices, it seems out of my budget in the mean time to get one when they range in $700-1500 including Tax stamp.

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Sweep » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:19 pm

Johnaton your trying to reinvent the wheel.... better to just buy a exsisting 308 can on the market i think you will be much happier, also im not sure there is a fed restriction seems i remember other 18-20 year olds purchasing cans, :-k as long as there is no state law saying you have to be 21 you should be good to go
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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:05 pm

Sweep wrote:Johnaton your trying to reinvent the wheel.... better to just buy a exsisting 308 can on the market i think you will be much happier, also im not sure there is a fed restriction seems i remember other 18-20 year olds purchasing cans, :-k as long as there is no state law saying you have to be 21 you should be good to go
21 to buy suppressors from the letters I checked

18 to build SBR(can't buy) but I think that's it

From the kits, it seems it would save me $300-600 so I'm just looking at that as an option since I could put that money I saved into reloading. If it's not cost effective I'd just save up

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Pizzim » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:48 pm

The ways the rules are written have prevented any useful baffles to be made for a "kit" so most home built suppressors for are less than desirable when it comes to sound suppression
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Post by Jonathanw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:03 pm

Pizzim wrote:The ways the rules are written have prevented any useful baffles to be made for a "kit" so most home built suppressors for are less than desirable when it comes to sound suppression
Okay thanks, makes sense

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Rentprop1 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:00 pm

I think you'd be much happier with a can that does both 9mm and 300 BLK

and its 21 to purchase a suppressor from a dealer, 18 to buy one on a F4 from an individual
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:37 pm

Rentprop1 wrote:I think you'd be much happier with a can that does both 9mm and 300 BLK

and its 21 to purchase a suppressor from a dealer, 18 to buy one on a F4 from an individual
Oh didn't know that, very interesting, and won't any 7.62 suppressor work on 9mm ? As long as threads are compatible

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Post by CitrusDude » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:47 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Oh didn't know that, very interesting, and won't any 7.62 suppressor work on 9mm ? As long as threads are compatible
No, 7.62mm is smaller diameter than 9mm. If you want one can to do multiple calibers, you must go with the largest diameter bullet. Doing this usually results in increased sound levels for the smaller calibers.

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by better2have&notneed » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:08 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Rentprop1 wrote:I think you'd be much happier with a can that does both 9mm and 300 BLK

and its 21 to purchase a suppressor from a dealer, 18 to buy one on a F4 from an individual
Oh didn't know that, very interesting, and won't any 7.62 suppressor work on 9mm ? As long as threads are compatible
9mm is usually 1/2x28" or 1/2x36" and 7.62 is usually 5/8x24" or metric equivalent.

You're not gonna want to shoot 9mm thru 7.62 as 7.62 is smaller than 9mm and you'll destroy the can.

You'd have to research what 9mm cans are rated for .300 subsonic.

If you want, you can run some factory .300 subs thru my Ti-Rant9 and sub and supersonics thru my Hybrid one day.

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Rentprop1 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:56 pm

I'm waiting on a Liberty Mystic X.....but I don't have anything in 300 blk.
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Post by Jonathanw » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:54 pm

My apologies on my mix up, I'm looking for a budget can and radical make a fairly inexpensive can but 308/300 only

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Post by Sweep » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:35 am

Johnathon as long as one trustee is over 21... who else is listed on the trust ?
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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:13 am

Sweep wrote:Johnathon as long as one trustee is over 21... who else is listed on the trust ?
I have not set up a trust yet, I'll begin that shortly

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by MomentArms » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:17 am

Could always get a simple trust now. Form 1 a suppressor now. Generic length of 9 inches and 30 cal let's say. Then you got plenty of time to design and build it after it gets approved. You can still beat 41p now and only cost 200 bucks upfront.

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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Rentprop1 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:31 pm

At Jonathanw's age there really isn't a benefit for a trust unless he wants to share ownership with someone ....just wait and do it personally ....having prints and your photo taken isn't a reason to drop $200 on a Form 1 making tax on a can that doesn't yet exist
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Post by Orlando Paulitician » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:09 pm

Rentprop1 wrote:At Jonathanw's age there really isn't a benefit for a trust unless he wants to share ownership with someone ....just wait and do it personally ....having prints and your photo taken isn't a reason to drop $200 on a Form 1 making tax on a can that doesn't yet exist
this, I almost wish I had waited.
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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:39 am

Seems like a lot of suppressors are sold out :ham'r

I was thinking about going the cheap route in the mean time, and registering one of those oil filter suppressors with adaptor for $85. Apparently they last for 300-500 rounds and you send the suppressor back to the company and they replace it with new ATF serial # for $25 seems like a good temporary fix until suppressors start to get back in stock and I have extra funds to invest in a quality one that can work on all my guns

Any thoughts or suggestions on would it work well with subsonic 300 blackout?

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Post by Pizzim » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:30 pm

They cant re issue a new serial number, do they replace the "baffles"? What kind of can are you looking for?
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Re: Buying VS building NFA

Post by Jonathanw » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:17 pm

Pizzim wrote:They cant re issue a new serial number, do they replace the "baffles"? What kind of can are you looking for?
I maybe rewording it wrong but it's on the company's website, I think they may have meant engraving the replacement with the serial number on the broken one.

I want one that can shoot 300 and 9mm but have to save up for a while so I can drop $900-1500 for a good one

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Post by 870Mike » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:50 pm

Jonathanw wrote:
Pizzim wrote:They cant re issue a new serial number, do they replace the "baffles"? What kind of can are you looking for?
I maybe rewording it wrong but it's on the company's website, I think they may have meant engraving the replacement with the serial number on the broken one.

I want one that can shoot 300 and 9mm but have to save up for a while so I can drop $900-1500 for a good one
Why waste a $200 stamp on some POS?

There are no less than 15 Silencerco Hybrid's on GB right now btwn. $700 ~ $900.

The Silencerco Omega can shoot .300, 5.56 & 7.62, also around $800. 20+ on GB at this moment.
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