LOL... I am the one that points out Hispanic and Latino is an ethnicity.Gmountain wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:26 amFirst of all, Mr Snowflake- language is not a race. So stop that crying.Miami_JBT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:37 amThe US acquisition of Puerto Rico, Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California says you're wrong. All those areas were Spanish settled and colonized and their populations were absorbed into the fabric and culture of the US. Furthermore, they were made Citizens when these territories were acquired.Gmountain wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:37 am
As an American, nothing should be in Spanish. The "Spanish speaking communities" need to learn English and conduct business in English, and red the Declaration of Independence in English and the Constitution in English.
Fracturing the country into separate groups is what hurts the gun cause. We need common touchstones to function as a country, and it starts with speaking English.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
Many a Tejano fought and died for freedom against Mexican Despotism when Texas fought for independence and later against Mexico in the US-Mexico War of 1846-1848. The 65th Infantry Regiment of the US Army fought a bloody battle in Korea against overwhelming number of Chinese Communist Troops and led a bayonet charge to kick the commies out.
The unit was mostly Hispanic made up of Puerto Ricans and Americans of Mexican ancestry.
In WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, and today in the War on Terror, a shit ton of Hispanics have served, bled, and died for this country.
Hell, prior to WWII the largest spoken language in the US other than English was German. There were German Social Clubs, Newspapers, Magazines, etc. All marketed specifically to the German American Communities scattered across the country. Guess what, they all proudly served the country when needed to.
Thanks for promoting that gun owners are a group of racist bigots.
You are the one equating language with race. Actually, hispanic is not a race either. But it is a convenient crying point.
I am discussing the language issue. In America people need to learn English, and business and government need to be conducted in English. You want to talk about people who fought in wars. If you don't see the difference, then I can't help you.
I posted this over on Arfcom. Latin America and the Pecking Order. An explanation of Hispanic, Latinos, & the Hate
Hispanic and Latino are two very different things. Hispanic is one that traces their ancestry back to Spain. The Iberian peninsula was called Hispania by the Romans. I am Hispanic... my great grand parents are from Asturias in Northern Spain. Under the Casta, I'd be classified as Criollo (a white person with Spanish or other European descent born in the Americas). My Great Grandparents would be Peninsular (a European born in Spain who later settled in the Americas). My wife would be Mulatta (a person of mixed white European and black African ancestry).
The majority of the illegal migrants and their supporters are the lowest of the low in the Casta.
Mexico is three societies in one. You have the lowest of the low. Mestizo (mixed Native American and European) and Cholos (Native American with some Mestizo). The middle class of Mexico and most of Latin America is Castizos (European with some Indigenous). And finally the ruling class. Which is White Spaniard. The upper class is like me. White Criollos with ancestral connections to Spain and a pure bloodline. Mexico is very rigid when it comes to the Casta.
The Casta is the caste system created by Imperial Spain. This actually has a role still in my Spanish speaking countries and how it has shaped their cultures.
Latino means one born in a Spanish Speaking Country, not one being of Spanish Blood.
The majority of the ruling class in Latin America are not mixed. They are Hispanic for the most part not Latino. The people that push for typical bullshit here in the US are not in any way the ruling class back home. They're the bottom of the barrel. The Cuban community that fled after Castro were the White Upper and Middle Class. Cuba went from being a White Majority nation to being a majority Afro population.
In places like Bolivia, were you have a very high Mestizo and Cholo population. They are looked down upon by other nations like Chile and Argentina. The pecking order is Latin America is very rigid on who is more Spaniard. Thr more mixed or Ameri-Indian, the lower on the pile they are.
Everyone that tries to be someone tries to claim Spanish Ancestry. Look at the more stable nations in Latin America. Chile Argentina (a cluster fuck, but not a backwater place like Bolivia), and Uruguay. The more native or mixed the population, usually the more fucked up.
Plus you have natioal rivalries. Brazil always claimsnto be the big dog, but the majority of their country is empty of people. They're mostly along the coast and the interior is un-inhabitable. No roadways, etc.... so because of this. Many other Latin American Nations look at Brazilians as all talk and no game.
Central America is looked upon as the 'tarded inbred cousins. Places like Guatemala are looked at like the US looks at West Virginia. Corrupt, backwards, inbred, and full of cousin fuckers.
Colombians, Venezuelans, Chileans, and Argentinians consider themselves to be the most cultured. Ecuador, Bolivia, Guatemala, Paraguay, Peru, etc... they are very mixed with the Native Populations of Ameri-Indians. Guatemala, in an attempt to be more like their European descended neighbors tried to actually wage a genocide on these populations in the 1970s and 1980s.
Tribalism/Nationality in the Spanish speaking world is very big.
Especially so in the Caribbean. You have Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico. The Boricua in Puerto Rico are island born and hate their Mainland born cousins in NY and FL. They that them so much so, that they call them Nuyoricans. They consider them fakes like the Irishmen consider Americans in Boston to be Plastic Paddies.
The Dominican Republic is an odd duck. They're mostly Mulatto yet they're racist as fuck and don't consider themselves Black. This stems from Haiti. Dominicans fought for independence from Haiti and Spain. They view Haitians as untermensch and in the 1930s massacreed them. The Dominican Army asked anyone that was Dark Skinned to say Parsley in Spanish it is pronounced differently than Haitian Creole. If they couldn't pronounce it. They were shot or given the bayonet. The ruling class in the Dominican Republic is light skinned, but the peasantry are not. But they all hold themselves higher than Haitians.
Cuba split after 1959. The majority of the White affluent population fled to the US. The Afro population grew because of that. Cubans in the US and on the island are completely different. And this comes down generationally too. Cubans like my parents and grandparents are nothing like the current influx. But Cuba itself has shifted culturally as a country that once prided itself on casting off the yoke of Spanish Rule but still revelled in being Spaniards. This especially was the case afterthe Spanish-American War. Spaniards flocked to Cuba for work and opportunity. Fidel Castro's own father was one such man. But Fidel was a bastard son from an out of wedlock affair with the farm staff. Fidel was raised with the mulattos and connected with them. After the revolution, he pushed Cuba to forget its European past.
Because of this, Cubans in Americaconsider themselves the best out of Caribbean. They view themselves as the best. Puerto Ricans consider themselves the best since they're all Americans but still are separated and act as if they're their own thing. The Dominicans constantly try to be the better. But they're stuck in the middle and reminded of that.
There is no friendship amongst Latinos and Hispanics. We all truly hate each other for the most part. Chile and Argentina have viewed each other as enemies. Colombia and Venezuela also are rivals. The Ameri--Indian populations are looked upon like trash and the chip on their shoulders make them hate the White European populations. Mexico thinks their shit doesn't stink, yet they're constantly reminded that they're all half breeds.
All while Spaniards look down on everyone.
In the US, the constant push by the Left is that Latino/Hispanics are all good friends with a unified voice andthat we're the same race. In fact that is far from the truth. You have White, Black, Ameri-Indian, Japanese, and Chinese. Peru is especially the case with Japanese. Their ruling class is a mix between Japanese and White Spaniards. But the Ameri-Indians breed like rabbits. So that is changing.
In the end... we aren't all the same and we all aren't Brown skinned Ameri-Indian half breeds that look like the lost Incan or Mayan tribe.
Secondly.... Let me show you what NRA & GUN OWNERS SHOULD BE DOING and how they SHOULD SPEND THEIR MONEY-
It Looks like this-
https://www.facebook.com/rachel.malone.TX
Rachel works for GOA here in Texas. When I say WORKS FOR, I really mean, works HER ASS OFF for. Just look at her Facebook timeline. She's a dynamo, running all over the State of Texas putting on seminars on how to testify at the Legislature for the upcoming session. Take a look at WHERE she was most recently, South Texas, lots of "brown faces" in those hand shaking events......
She's a serious competitive shooter and an instructor and pro gun beyond the pale.... THESE are the kinds of people we need fighting for Gun Rights.
In the end, if you want to expand gun ownership, you need to branch out. Stop the petty bullshit about not speaking Spanish.
The reality of the fact is that you have Spanish speaking communities in this country. Go stick your head in the sand. Shit, in Puerto Rico you had SAF fighting for Constitutional Carry and a metric shit ton of Boricua signed up for CCW permits there.
But keep making it seem that gun owners are closeted troglodytes that only want a 1950s Leave it to Beaver TV Americana that never existed.
