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the various CMP imports

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:50 pm
by Orlando Paulitician
Would anyone have an online source talking about the various CMP imports (Korean, Greek, US mil), their quality, and how to recognize them (serial ranges, typical markings, paint schemes or bluing).

I didn't realize I was woefully ignorant about the different kinds of M1 Garand imports till I got there. ](*,)

Re: the various CMP imports

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:40 pm
by Odessaman
CMP has its own forum - they will likely have the info you're seeking.

http://forums.thecmp.org/

Re: the various CMP imports

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:08 am
by Racist Infidel
Orlando Paulitician wrote:Would anyone have an online source talking about the various CMP imports (Korean, Greek, US mil), their quality, and how to recognize them (serial ranges, typical markings, paint schemes or bluing).

I didn't realize I was woefully ignorant about the different kinds of M1 Garand imports till I got there. ](*,)
The rifles CMP gets are all US made. Springfield and Winchester are WW2, Springfield during Korea and after, IHC and H&R are post Korea. They were 'loaned' to many countries and when those countries retire them they get sent back to the USA. I believe the Italians were the only other country to produce M1s. CMP does not offer those.

CMP stopped releasing info as to where the rifles were returned from years ago. I picked up 4 some years ago rumored to have been returned from the Greek Air Force. One was a Springfield that I swear, if it had more than 100 rounds put through it I'll eat my hat. Beautiful rife.

The link provided above give you all you need to know.

Re: the various CMP imports

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:28 pm
by Orlando Paulitician
Racist Infidel wrote:
Orlando Paulitician wrote:Would anyone have an online source talking about the various CMP imports (Korean, Greek, US mil), their quality, and how to recognize them (serial ranges, typical markings, paint schemes or bluing).

I didn't realize I was woefully ignorant about the different kinds of M1 Garand imports till I got there. ](*,)
The rifles CMP gets are all US made. Springfield and Winchester are WW2, Springfield during Korea and after, IHC and H&R are post Korea. They were 'loaned' to many countries and when those countries retire them they get sent back to the USA. I believe the Italians were the only other country to produce M1s. CMP does not offer those.

CMP stopped releasing info as to where the rifles were returned from years ago. I picked up 4 some years ago rumored to have been returned from the Greek Air Force. One was a Springfield that I swear, if it had more than 100 rounds put through it I'll eat my hat. Beautiful rife.

The link provided above give you all you need to know.
Extremely informative. :ber

Thanks!

Question, does the fact that IHC and HRA are post Korea mean they weren't used in Vietnam, since we had (I'm guessing) largely moved to the m16?

Re: the various CMP imports

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:49 pm
by Racist Infidel
AFAIK, the M-14, adopted in '53 IIRC, was standard issue during the early years in Nam. The M-16 was adopted later.

Just an FYI. When the Korean conflict started the Springfield Armory was our only M1 armory. Contracts were signed with H&R and IHC to have alternate manufactures on line. The conflict ended before any H&R or IHC rifles were issued to US troops.

If you are considering getting one, I would make my move pretty quick. There are only so many left out there. CMP stopped taking orders for M1s just recently. They are back to receiving orders but the end of the line is in sight. [smilie=012.gif]

Re: the various CMP imports

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:04 pm
by Orlando Paulitician
I did. When I did the road trip to Anniston, I picked up a Service grade.

Tag says RM1 Service SA, Muzzle 1, Throat 1+,

External Receiver is an H&R in the 5.6 million serial range,
bolt is in the 6.5 million serial range, with stampings HRA (same thing as H&R I presume) and *U*
Barrel stamped an H&R in 6.5 million serial range (non-matching) with extra characters spaced out at the end

I'm jonesing to get back to buy an SA, Winchester, and now IHC if I can find one thanks to you [smilie=011.gif]