M14 Build

M14s, M1 Garands & Carbines, Enfields, M1903s
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M14 Build

Post by creophus » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:59 am

M14 Build:

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Parts as they arrive from CMP:
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Re: M14 Build

Post by Dave P » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:46 pm

Cool ! How does it shoot?
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Post by mjmensale » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:20 pm

You're going to have a tough time shooting prone with that 30 rounder in there!
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Re: M14 Build

Post by Rentprop1 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:08 pm

but if you have an elliptical shaped mid section, you may not have issues [smilie=011.gif]
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by flcracker » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:50 pm

What receiver? Who built it?
and some rin up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stanes to pieces wi' hammers, like sae mony road-makers run daft - they say it is to see how the warld was made!

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Re: M14 Build

Post by g.willikers » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:31 am

Har!
Elliptical mid sections do help.
There was a fellow who used to come to our matches that was built that way.
He could rock up and down on his belly to shoot higher or lower.
Pretty good technique and he had it down pat.
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Re: M14 Build

Post by drshame » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:48 pm

M14s/M1A builds are nowhere as easy as AR's
What receiver, what barrel, how was the timing, does it cycle reliably, how does it group, any FTF's or FTE's?
Don't forget for the most parts it's an updated Garand made for minute of man and not a precision shooter.
I've known lotsa friends who spent $$$$ to get one to shoot like their cheapie AR and could never get the consistency of a good mouse gun.
But that .308 Remington is a major upgrade to .223, IMHO and the latest platforms are fun at the range.
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Re: M14 Build

Post by creophus » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:59 pm

Thanks. I haven't shot it yet. I hope to get it out to the range in a week or so. Schedule is crazy right now.

It's a Fulton Armory receiver. I put it together using parts from the CMP.

That 30 round is a bit much, but its all I have right now so I'll make do.

I've built several rifles now, Sporterized Mausers, Sporterized Enfield, Milsurp Mauser, AR-15 and now this M14, and this is the most I've been intimitdated by a build. Not really sure why since there was no cutting, reaming, drilling, blow torching, inletting, etc.

That book shown in the pictures was REALLY helpful. I recommend it to anyone doing an M14 build. I know have a great understanding of how the rifle works.

I'm not gonna expect it to be a tack driver, I have other things for that. I'll be happy with a rifle that runs consistently and will hit a man sized target out to several hundred yards.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by flcracker » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:09 am

Did you need to lap the bolt to achieve proper headspace?
and some rin up hill and down dale, knapping the chucky stanes to pieces wi' hammers, like sae mony road-makers run daft - they say it is to see how the warld was made!

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Re: M14 Build

Post by Rentprop1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:37 am

creophus wrote:
That book shown in the pictures was REALLY helpful. I recommend it to anyone doing an M14 build. I know have a great understanding of how the rifle works.
I saw it in a .pdf many years ago, anyone have a link to it :-k
In the days of the old west a 6 shooter was as common as cell phones are today and just annoying if they go off in a theater.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by creophus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:31 am

flcracker wrote:Did you need to lap the bolt to achieve proper headspace?
Thankfully I did not.

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Post by mjmensale » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:18 am

drshame wrote:M14s/M1A builds are nowhere as easy as AR's...I've known lotsa friends who spent $$$$ to get one to shoot like their cheapie AR and could never get the consistency of a good mouse gun.
I know what you mean! It was still only a minute and a half gun after lots of $$$$ and Black Hills 175gr match ammo. But it was sure fun!

Springfield/Geoff Corn build M14/M25.
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Re: M14 Build

Post by creophus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:38 pm

mjmensale wrote:
drshame wrote:M14s/M1A builds are nowhere as easy as AR's...I've known lotsa friends who spent $$$$ to get one to shoot like their cheapie AR and could never get the consistency of a good mouse gun.
I know what you mean! It was still only a minute and a half gun after lots of $$$$ and Black Hills 175gr match ammo. But it was sure fun!

Springfield/Geoff Corn build M14/M25.
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Yeah the ARs can really spoil you. If you hang a decent barrel on the thing it will shoot more times than not.

The M14s have more "personality". However, I have a LRT-SASS in 308 that will do all the precision I need. No need to obsess over getting this one sub MOA.

Great looking gun Moe.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by Dave P » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:19 pm

"The M14s have more "personality".

And style, and class, and mainly, they have SOUL. Not like those silly plastic fantastic AR's.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by creophus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:23 pm

Dave P wrote:"The M14s have more "personality".

And style, and class, and mainly, they have SOUL. Not like those silly plastic fantastic AR's.

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Re: M14 Build

Post by Tact.Medic » Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:17 pm

Dayum! [smilie=pdt_xtremez_30.gif]

Thats some purty guns!! Is this in a shop?


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Post by NonConformist » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:27 pm

I don't get where the idea comes from M14s are inaccurate and in need of insanely expensive tuning. The Standard for accuracy on the M14 was something like 9" max at 600 and that was the GI spec for acceptance IIRC
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Post by flcracker » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:39 pm

NonConformist wrote:I don't get where the idea comes from M14s are inaccurate and in need of insanely expensive tuning. The Standard for accuracy on the M14 was something like 9" max at 600 and that was the GI spec for acceptance IIRC
You're zaktly right.

9" @ 600yds = 1.5" @ 100yds = headshots out as far as I can see a head.

Not hard to do with any of my M14s & M1 Garands. Some of them do much better.

[smilie=pdt_xtremez_30.gif] /:f [smilie=cheers1.gif]
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Post by NonConformist » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:25 pm

flcracker wrote:
NonConformist wrote:I don't get where the idea comes from M14s are inaccurate and in need of insanely expensive tuning. The Standard for accuracy on the M14 was something like 9" max at 600 and that was the GI spec for acceptance IIRC
You're zaktly right.

9" @ 600yds = 1.5" @ 100yds = headshots out as far as I can see a head.

Not hard to do with any of my M14s & M1 Garands. Some of them do much better.

[smilie=pdt_xtremez_30.gif] /:f [smilie=cheers1.gif]
Sweet! I remembered right! One year I will afford an M14, a riflemans rifle indeed!
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Re: M14 Build

Post by M14man » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:44 am

Was that 9" mean radius?
That was the militarys way of measuring.
That would mean they 'average' the distances of all shots from center and the average had to be less than 9".
That could mean 3 minutes of angle, mol....since very few standard M1A's get close to that.

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