AK 74 vs. 47

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AK 74 vs. 47

Post by lucy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:04 pm

Which would you choose and why?
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by Gregh181 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:06 pm

If were assuming the 74 is shooting the 5.45 I would choose the 47 every time. Better penetration with the 7.62x39 round.
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Post by Rentprop1 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:43 pm

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by DaveM » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:47 pm

The 74 is less expensive to shoot. Low recoil. The 47 has more uses. It could be used for deer or hog hunting as well as range plinking.


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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by NonConformist » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:37 pm

if I can get the issue Russian issue round for the 74, id get that. If not the 47
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by tector » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:45 pm

NonConformist wrote:if I can get the issue Russian issue round for the 74, id get that. If not the 47
It's not a $115 a can like it was a few years, but at $170 for 1080 it is a steal by contemporary standards. You can buy all you like at that price:

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by NonConformist » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:58 pm

is it the actual Russian Military load though? The one with the hollow nose that is fully jacketed causing massive yaw on impact?

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by tector » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:03 pm

The Bulgy military cans (with the Circle 10) are also great, but harder to find right now. I saw one at the MIami gun show Saturday for $199--not bad cash and carry. Probably should have bought it but I have "a few".
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by g.willikers » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:38 am

This is kind of reminiscent of how things were when I was kid.
Folks chose guns just because they used the cheap and readily available surplus military ammo from WW2.
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by cbr954fz1 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:48 pm

I have and shoot both but my favorite is the ak74 because it has better accuracy and lower recoil for faster target acquisition.. I use my saiga converted ak74 for 3gun matches but every now and then my Yugo ak47 u/f.. cbr

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by WhoUtink » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:25 am

I'm sad to say I have never shot either, but the answer is simple. Both.
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by 5thShock » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:25 pm

Have a 7.62, fired both. 5.45 kicks less, with the Russian brake it's seems the next best thing to a 22 rimfire automatic for shooting close and quick. At unknown ranges beyond 100 yards you are more likely to get a first round hit with the flatter 5.45. Lighter all up. Long term the ammo picture is probably better for the 7.62, more sources, so that would be my pick. But that 5.45 is some wicked.

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by jjk308 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:23 am

The 5.45x39 is just a little lower powered 5.56x45. The USSR wanted to duplicate the 5.56 and the 5.45 is the hottest thing they could shoot from the AR platform and meet their milspec requirements. despite the stories from the Afghan Mujaheddin it isn't a particularly lethal round. Unlike the higher velocity (from a rifle, not carbine) 5.56 it wont break in two when it tumbles.
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by hmorphone » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:41 am

I like the 5.45, though I have to say both have their uses

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by macattack321 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:37 pm

7.62 for sure. No one is making 5.45, and the surplus stuff will dry up eventually.

Sure, someone will start making commercial 5.45 sooner or later, but it ain't gonna be cheap! Reloading the stuff will be difficult as well, since there will be very little non-Berdan brass.

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by tector » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:16 pm

All kinds of people make new 5.45--Wolf, Silver Bear, etc. It prices out the about the same as the 7.62 that they make.

Now it if the Obama crew crew drop the hammer on Russian ammo imports, THEN there will be trouble--but for 7.62 as well.

In the meantime you can still get shitloads of surplus 5.45 cheap (by today's standards).

http://www.usacsales.com/545x39-ammo-can
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by Rentprop1 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:13 pm

got my crate ( 2 tins ) from USAC yesterday , the price is cheaper but it was $ 62 shipping to FL ....so it all works out in the end
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by macattack321 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:13 pm

I stand corrected... I didn't know that Wolf was making 5.45.

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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by tector » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:50 pm

No prob. If you don't buy it, there is really no reason to know. There are all kinds of calibers where I could not tell you who makes what. [smilie=cheers1.gif]
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Re: AK 74 vs. 47

Post by speed_racer » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:29 am

After owning both a "top of the line" 74 and 47 I like them both almost equal, but the edge goes to the 545. Simply for accuracy and DAMN I miss my VEPR......
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