Lots of LE agencies dumping 40 S&W.

Pistols of all descriptions.
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Re: Lots of LE agencies dumping 40 S&W.

Post by Outgunu » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:40 pm

Think Jacksonville Sheriffs department is swapping to 9 from 40.

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Post by KenH » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:52 pm

They have had the 9mm for a few months now.

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Post by photohause » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:19 am

"I always thought it was the answer to a question nobody asked."

Kind of like the 45 GAP?
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Post by revelation » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:21 am

Is there any chance that the price of .40 would go down to be competitive with 9mm?
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Post by tcpip95 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:14 pm

I've always felt that the .40 was the "near-perfect" round. It's got great muzzle velocity of a 9mm (1,150 fps) and the muzzle energy of a .45 ACP (485 ft/lbs). I particularly like the 165gr weight.

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Post by jaytwillerham » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:54 pm

With so many tests showing that .40, 9mm, and .45 have similar effect as pistol rounds,
Does it really matter which caliber is chosen?
Doesn't skill count for far more?
Too many people put emphasis on equipment as a substitute for training and practice.
If poor results occur, it's more likely due to something other than the choice of weapon.

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Post by rug357 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:00 pm

jaytwillerham wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:54 pm
With so many tests showing that .40, 9mm, and .45 have similar effect as pistol rounds,
Does it really matter which caliber is chosen?
Doesn't skill count for far more?
Too many people put emphasis on equipment as a substitute for training and practice.
If poor results occur, it's more likely due to something other than the choice of weapon.
It's a lot easier to blame the hardware than to accept their lack of skills.
Back when I was shooting competitively I see guys switching weapons all the time looking for that perfect weapon that never miss and shoots lightning fast...unfortunately they forget that accuracy and speed comes with practice. I used to tell new guys all the time to forget the weapon (within reason) and spend the money on practice ammo.

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Post by chester field » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:24 pm

rug357 wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:00 pm
It's a lot easier to blame the hardware than to accept their lack of skills.
Back when I was shooting competitively I see guys switching weapons all the time looking for that perfect weapon that never miss and shoots lightning fast...unfortunately they forget that accuracy and speed comes with practice. I used to tell new guys all the time to forget the weapon (within reason) and spend the money on practice ammo.
The same goes for golf :)
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Post by 45caldan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:18 pm

jaytwillerham wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:54 pm
With so many tests showing that .40, 9mm, and .45 have similar effect as pistol rounds,
Does it really matter which caliber is chosen?
This is exactly why the .40 is falling from favor. If 9mm can be as effective why would anyone want to put up with more recoil and higher ammo prices??

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