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AR-10 platforms

Post by flcracker » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:49 pm

Can someone please bring me up to speed with a short summary of the different 7.62/.308 AR-10 platforms available today, with specific information on compatibility/interchangability between parts & brands and information on what is different from an AR-15 when considering building one from parts.
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Post by Gregh181 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm

I’ll attach myself to this. I’m looking for one as well but I’m lookin at the Scar 17. I’ve read reviews where the recoil can knock off the scopes

Dpms is good to go if your looking to build tho
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Post by TC6969 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 pm

Gregh181 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm
Dpms is good to go if your looking to build tho
After two absolutely disastrous experiences with Palmetto State Armory, I gave up and bought a DPMS.

Runs like a Swiss watch, shoots MOA at 200 and other than free floating, I didn't see anything else it needed.

I have no idea where DPMS got their bad reputation.
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Post by itsnunya » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:53 pm

I acquired a DPMS LR308 w/ 24" bull barrel from a member here in '08 and the few times I have taken it to the range I have never had a problem.
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Post by n0rlf » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 am

The AR10 does not have the same mill spec standards the 15s pretty much share. There are differences of course. The DPMS pattern and the Armalite being two of the biggest ones but even then there are differences.

I have used Aero Precision, DPMS, PSA, and Mega. All work fine but you have to use the right parts with the right receivers.

I have a few 308, a couple 6.5 creedmoor, 2 different .243s and even a 22-250. I built the 22-250 out of curiosity and having obtained the barrel in a trade. Meh, fun but a good bolt gun in that caliber would be my preference.

There are some great resources out there if you look to explain what parts work with others. I prefer the Aero Precision receivers over the others but it is a Ford/Chevy debate really.
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Post by DaveM » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 am

TC6969 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 pm
Gregh181 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm
After two absolutely disastrous experiences with Palmetto State Armory,
Can you please explain?

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Post by TC6969 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:22 pm

DaveM wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 am
TC6969 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 pm
Gregh181 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm
After two absolutely disastrous experiences with Palmetto State Armory,
Can you please explain?
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Post by playswithstyrene » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:20 am

TC6969 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 pm
Gregh181 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm
Dpms is good to go if your looking to build tho
After two absolutely disastrous experiences with Palmetto State Armory, I gave up and bought a DPMS.

Runs like a Swiss watch, shoots MOA at 200 and other than free floating, I didn't see anything else it needed.

I have no idea where DPMS got their bad reputation.
Which model did you buy?

I'm on the market for an AR-10 as well. Was going to buy the S&W but after some research, decided not to go with that.

I might go with either the DPMS Oracle or G2. Would like to hear more about your experience with your purchase.
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Post by psignore00 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:49 am

#1 - Buy a factory built rifle. I don’t care what brand you buy, but a factory built rifle is the most important. It’s not as easy to piece a rifle together as an AR15. Armalite has its own design, and most others have copied DPMS’s design. The two big differences are the shape of the back of the receiver and barrel nut, meaning you can’t interchange uppers and lowers or handguards.

I bought an Armalite Def-10 a year ago and love it. It shoots fine with surplus ammo and my Core-Lokt soft point hunting ammo. There’s something to be said about buying from the company that invented the platform. And the price was $800 shipped plus the $25 FFL fee, which fit my budget.

In my opinion, Armalite fixed the major problem that was holding them back by creating a model that would use the generic LR/SR magazines rather than a proprietary Armalite magazine. $15 Pmags vs $50 OEM makes a big difference to your purchase price when you get 15 Mags to go along with your new rifle.

I prefer the plastic handguards, but when looking for accessories in general noticed more handguards options for the DPMS pattern if that’s important to you.

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Post by Srasel79 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:23 am

If you're going to get the Smith & Wesson M&P 10 you going to need to free float the barrel with a different handguard and possibly look at putting in a different trigger to tighten up the groups. But do your research because parts interchangeability is a big issue.

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Post by TC6969 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:34 pm

playswithstyrene wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:20 am
TC6969 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:31 pm
Gregh181 wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:40 pm
Dpms is good to go if your looking to build tho
After two absolutely disastrous experiences with Palmetto State Armory, I gave up and bought a DPMS.

Runs like a Swiss watch, shoots MOA at 200 and other than free floating, I didn't see anything else it needed.

I have no idea where DPMS got their bad reputation.
Which model did you buy?

I'm on the market for an AR-10 as well. Was going to buy the S&W but after some research, decided not to go with that.

I might go with either the DPMS Oracle or G2. Would like to hear more about your experience with your purchase.
Mine is the Oracle.

I really like it.

I put an ALG Defense ACT trigger and one of those adjusters that goes in the grip screw.

Then I saw 12" DPMS free float quad rails were being discontinued for $20.00 and got one of those.

I also put one of those "No Box" Rogers Super Stocks on it, but that's all I've done to it.

I don't recall it ever failing to run like a top, and its WAY more accurate than an economy rifle should be.

Even with the upgrades, I'm in under $1000, not including scope.
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Post by flashooter22 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:45 pm

I recently put together an Aero Precision based gun. One thing I screwed up on was using an AR15 bolt catch. First trip suppressed ended up bending the catch and locking up the gun because I had the gas too high. Still need to replace it and make my adjustable gas block easier to access.
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Post by Rentprop1 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:31 am

We did an aero M5 Builder set went to Flat Dark Earth about a year ago top that off with a Vortex Razor HD and added the best 30 cal can on the market today from "Q " called the Full Nelson.....it's a top notch rig IMHO.
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Post by LastRites » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:27 am

Oh I've been eyeing a Def 10 as I'm tempted to get back into the big frame game, $725 is tough to beat. A lot to be said about a factory Armalite as the base for a build, their guns seem to run without issue more times than not. My dpms turned out to be a catch and release, had a tight chamber which caused a return trip and their naturally crappy trigger which was replaced anyways.
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Post by playswithstyrene » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:38 pm

Thanks for all the feedback, gentlemen. [smilie=pdt_xtremez_30.gif]

It's a toss up for me between the DEF10 and the Oracle for now. Guess I better visit my LGS to see if they have them on stock and compare before purchasing.

By the way, anyone here has bought from Live Free Armory? https://www.livefreearmory.com/product- ... -firearms/
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Post by TC6969 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:18 pm

I might be inclined to bring mine out for a test drive, seeing as I'm back in south Hillsborough for right now.
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Post by Gregh181 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:40 pm

Has anyone experience w a scar 17?
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Post by playswithstyrene » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:50 pm

Welp, went ahead and bought the DEF10 after reading more about it and fondling one they had at my LGS. [smilie=011.gif]

Now researching some rails to slap on it, since I don't like the plastic ones it comes with.
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Post by TC6969 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:21 pm

Looks like the DEF-10 is a copy of the Oracle or vice versa.

It looks just like mine except for the muzzle brake.

Can I ask what you paid?
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Post by Waldo1 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:32 pm

I'm following this with interest and a couple of questions: I've seen threads where some insist on an adjustable gas system for an AR-10? Also, can anyone with personal experience compare recoil on an AR-10 to an FAL? I already have an awesome FAL but after a couple of shoulder surgeries, both the weight and the recoil limit the fun-factor. (I also have an Ishapore Enfield in 7.62 and that curved metal buttplate feels like its cracking my damn collarbone.)
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